it will get the first high tier bundle pack
a pair of netherlands 2A4s and a roland
I really want to grind france as i think the leclerc’s are quite underrated. Waiting for a leclerc premium.
More accurate when using a hesh round, as the means of stabilizing it is spin stabilized. The sabots themself on the cr2 remove the spin, they have a ring on them that counteracts the spin so when fired it comes out just like a smoothbore with little spin.
The rifling is only relevant to the hesh round, or if we were using apds.
They’re all accurate to get the job done at km’s away, just through different means lol
Yeh ur right. Been a while since i looked at it all. 🤝
1 Like
Brother, I had to go look at it again to even have this conversation. I only had a rough memory of it lol
1 Like
Just buy the AMX-30 Super. France is the last country untainted by premium spammers.
The AMX-30 Super is genuinely amazing at its tier. It’s among my most played vehicles.
That Simpson meme would fit so well right now.
What people put abrams or leclerc as worst top tier mbts? They are one of the best
I was tempted to talk about the Chinese tanks, they aren’t amazing, and for some reason that gets glossed over due to them being Eastern designs and having the carryover reputation from when Russia was insane around 2020-2022.
I still think that them having some forwards mobility makes them slightly preferable to the Challenger 2s though, as the increased turret protection on the Challies doesn’t do much of anything then the entire hull is a weak spot and you still have the universal breech one.
1 Like
Leclercs are the middle of the road I would say, putting the SEP Abrams down as the worst is outright trolling.
5 second reload has been spread across most tanks.
I like the Leclerc, but as an MBT (which it should be, armour should be at least equal to an abrams, with some sources pointing to better) it is shit. The mobility is good compared to something like a chally or leo (depending on version) but feels worse than Abrams, which has notably better armour, round, and a relatively safe way to approach a threat. The mobility for Leclerc is underperforming almost as bad as the armour.
Challengers feel a bit better to engage at range on long range maps, and are in my experience much more survivable than Leclerc. Which means you can occasionally push someone aware of you, unlike Leclerc. If Leclerc had all its bells and whistles (or SHARD) then it would be great. But it doesn’t, and it’s not stellar in most the environments it gets shoved into. Similar to chally.
China will grow larger!
But we should know many players, especially new players who attracted by modern tanks, would pay more attention to what they see on news and websites. They care more about “I want play X vehecle” rather than “I want try more kinds of vehicle from different ages and countries”.
Besides is T-69 II G(aka 69-IIG on Chinese client) worth to play now? I’m using T 69 II G, 69-IIA, Object 122, Z-11 and H-5 as my grinding preset now
I have it in my 9.0 line-up as a backup. It’s a good tank.
It is similar to the T-62M-1 in my USSR 9.0 line-up, in that they’re good tanks but they’re only there to be used in emergency situations when I’ve lost the main tanks of the line-up and the match calls for more spawns for the team to get over the line.
Though, if you haven’t already completed the Chinese tree, then the T-69 II and WMA make a great premium combo, that’s for sure. I know if I was given the choice to grind out China using Al-Khalid vs T-69 II and WMA, I’d choose the latter. China has a good time at 9.0.
1 Like
I think it goes deeper than that. There has been a ‘Made in China’ stigma for many years now. China also has its own geopolitical controversies in the South China Sea and elsewhere. However, these people bringing geopolitics into this game never actually realise their own biases towards these topics. Nor do they remember that this is a computer game and not an exercise in nationalism. I absolutely cannot stand how Israel has conducted itself in recent times, but I don’t let that stop me from enjoying the Ayit and other Israeli vehicles I enjoy. I cannot stand that USA invaded Iraq on falsehoods (muh WMDss), and then locked up and tortured people without trial, and then fled Afghanistan with their tail between their legs in 2021 - but I’m not going to let that stop me from enjoying the US tech-tree and US vehicles. People need to come to their senses on these topics. Thankfully, those people that can’t come to their senses are easily found out by them typically only playing a single Western nation while continuously hating on the USSR/Chinese tech-tree despite never actually using them.
Oh, and let us not forget that guy who sabotaged the Chinese tech-tree for years after its addition:
Spoiler
7 Likes
There are so few people using this forum, and there are only 175 people here with more than 1,000 players participating in the local survey of the Chinese community. I believe that even in other countries, the number of people attending will be greater than in this place.
1 Like
I mean I Leclerc is a baasically a bit better version of the abrams imo
I can’t think of 1 way the Leclerc beats out the Abrams, now if you want to argue the autoloader is a benefit that’s fine, but I think it’s a downgrade seeing as how it’s now a damageable component and reduces survivability by reducing crew count to 3.
There may have been a misunderstanding, When I say Russia was insane in 2020-2022, I mean in game (in terms of that being the period when they were dominant across all modes), this is in no way a political comment and I will continue to keep any of those opinions to myself, as you said, this game and forum is about a video game in which vehicles beat each other up at unrealistically close ranges.
Oh, that is refreshing. You’re referring to the T-80BVM hoards. However, if you study the forum - many in this community think that dominance continues, the cries of Russian-bias never left. The cries have just shifted more towards CAS and SPAA, for example:
Spoiler
Anyone thinking Russia-China is same-same in those areas needs their heads checked, though.
5 Likes
I don’t know why people hate on the vt4a1. It might not look great on the protection analysis but in actual matches it eats plenty of rounds, the gun is good, the aps shoots down heat, atgms, dumb rockets, bombs, basically anything slower than apfsds. It’s also got really good mobility, it’s not as fast as the ztz99a/wz1001 which makes it feel slow but when you actually race against other tanks it’s got basically identical mobility to a leclerc.