Japan has a Mig-29SMT equivalent CAS: F-16AJ, and both are superior to all other Soviet CAS options.
KA 50/52 counts as CAS and it dominated the matches for a very long time, you cant complain when domination isnt in the hands USSR for a short amount of time.
Besides that isnt true either the Mig27K was one of the best CAS for quite some time as well
Not mentioning the stupid surviveability and domination of the SU 25 which it still has and dominates its br
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If you can’t destroy the ka-50/52 then the problem is with you.
German uht with PARS 3 is the best heli “CAS”. It’s practically impossible to spot incoming missiles if you’re in a tank. a German tiger can respawn at the nearest airfield, fire all PARS 3, land and do it again. Likewise, PARS 3 can serve as a helicopter destroyer.
Vikhrs are not as good as they were. And now you can direct only one, or several, but you have to launch them very quickly
so how about 9.2km range supersonic tandem proximity fuse and 12km range MMW Radars and DIRCM?
is it notable yet?
Pretty much
Didn’t really have a competitor until the Harrier GR.7 which has the handicap of having to play Britain.
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right back at you, if you cant use the SMT the problem is with you, pure skill issue
ah yes the infamous PARS 3, which is completly useless in any forest map or map with cover, the pars 3 is very situational and only realy useable in open maps like deserts while the vikhers can be used in any situatiopn
yes i am aware but that is my point, before those changes the vikhers were VERY strong and dominated the meta for a long time with no competitor, meta changes and right now it just isnt russias turn
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it just is so funny and weird to me that russian players complain how they always had the worst stuff of everything when that obviously is a lie and everyone can check it
I only unlocked SMT today so I don’t even have any modifications in it.
But it doesn’t matter. SMT among all 12.3 is the worst CAS anyway.
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This is a pretty stupid take. The Su-34 is on par with the F-15E. It has exceptional payload and self escort capability, in addition to excellent flight performance. You are literally asking to create a gap for everyone else.
In addition, the MiG-29SMT acts as a top tier CAS platform. The KH-29 is a beast of a missile. Or just taking it as a fighter sweep followed up by a loaded SU-25T/39. The Soviet tree is the last place to go looking for missing tools in the air support role right now.
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You say that when most nations dont even have 12.3 aircraft to begin with and you are still complaining, dont u see the hypocracy in that? US, USSR and Israels are the only nations that have 12.3 CAS in the first place. And USSR always had pretty competitive CAS trough all updates.
Honestly you cant even compare it realy to 12.3 aircraft, since most dont even exist yet to begin with
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salty people when its something about russia lol
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You exaggerate everything and try to forcefully say that smt is good and the best, that ussr has always had everything the best, which is not the case.
Even the Harrier GR.7 on the 11.7 is a better CAS.
Mirage2000D-R1 is a better cas than SMT.
SMT has only useless KAB-500Kr and 2 good KH-29T and that’s all.
Although the KAB-500Kr IRL may have an IR seeker like the AGM-65D.
Which they nerfed massively and have continued to nerf. It has half its effective range that it should. Not too mention its sub-sonic which makes it highly vulnerable to SPAA
Though thats not the point. The Gr7 is 100% pure CAS aircraft ,that is what it was designed to do. the Mig-29SMT is a highly competitive top tier A2A jet with a TPod and effective A2G ordanance. Britain mains would kill for anything A2A with even half the capability of the Mig-29SMT. Imagine if your Top tier line up was the Mig-23, Mig-27 and the Su-25 and that was it. No Mig-29, or Yak-141 at all. 0.
The soviets have always had inferior A2G weapons, they always will. that is a fact. They always relied on artillery, MLRS and Helis. Which is reflected in game with them having Helis that are vastly superior to the competition in every single way.
Even the AGM-65D is a heavily nerfed loadout option. We could have a myriad of better seeker types and we are still awaiting the Gr9 and Gr4 with their Brimstones
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i never said that SMT is the best and i never said that Russia had the best in everything else either, i said that stuff like mig27k was ONE of the best , meaning there was other strong CAS at the time. Same like the SU 25 had an equivalent with the A10. But still the Mig 27K and SU 25 were strong CAS at their introduction and at their time:
You ignore the fact, that the SMT is a multi role fighter and compeltly stomps the Harrier, SMT is way stronger in defending itself while delivering its CAS, which counts as one of its strengths.
It can clear the airspace itself with R73 or R27E variants while safely delivering its armament and enemy tanks. You dont need to play the SMT with 2 R73 and 4 A2G ordenances, taking 2 or 1 R27E variant opens strong options to you as well which those other aircraft lack
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Taking an R27 means you no longer have access to one of the 2 KH29s (spawn cost also hops up to like 1300).
The KAB500 is almost useless, in reality. Unless you have a massive dearth of altitude, good luck slinging it before being deep in engagement range.
The F16C on the other hand can carry 4 AIM9Ms along with 8 bombs (2 GBU and 6 AGM65) and a gimbal TGP with large offbore observance. With LGBs and AAMs, the F16C is nearly half the spawncost of an SMT with just KH29s.
How can you honestly compare the two? To carry 4 AAMs on the SMT, you can only carry 2 AGMs. That’s ignoring that the R73 has shorter range, longer engine contrail time, and is much more flareable than the 9M.
There’s no actual comparison beyond copium. You’re being disingenuous, or have never played the SMT in GRB.
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The SMT is a multi-role fighter which can do CAS as well as air superiority… I can’t understand why you’re comparing it to a 11.7 dedicated sub-sonic CAS aircraft.
From what i’ve heard they are far from useless.
longer engine contrail time
The contrails last longer for the R-73???
Have you used a KAB500? They miss ~80% of the time. You also have to be far too close, as their glide ratio is awful. They’re more of a detriment to use as you become an easy target.
And maybe I should say, the burn time of R73 is much longer, thus it is far more detectable.
still a possibility to take 2 A2G 1 bvr/ R73 missle
again dont necesarily compare the MIG 29 SMT to the F16C, like i already said US is stronger, but doesnt make the MST bad, even more so if most nations lack 12.3 to begin with
they have different strengths easy as that, many nations even lack sth, so you honestly cant complain and not being able to use it is a skill issue
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Not personally, but from what I’ve seen they are pretty good.
Definitely not an 80% misrate.
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Well that’s the first time I’ve ever seen someone try to claim that a motor rocket that burns longer is a drawback lol. It is also high off-boresight, meaning you can fire it from unexpected angles and catch people completely unaware more often.
gotta love hunter, he is the best prove for skill issue lol
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