Where are all the other gen 4.5 aircraft?

it’s not about easy time, there is nothing easy about AirRB, it’s about competing with similar airframes and missiles.
EFT right now represent everything that is wrong with current matchmaker and BR’s.
Also there a lot more “balanced” options for new top tier aircrafts for “minor” nations, like early models of Rafale, F/A-18C, Su-30(for Britain), J-11B, J-10B, but they choose the most braindead option, period.

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“I suffered so you need to too”
Dude, its game balance, not a victim competition.

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none of those would’ve been competitive with the F-15E/I

Typhoon and Rafale are tho

I guess, it was completely fine for the last 12 years though?

So make the change now instead of letting it persist. Would you rather 12 more years of back and forth suffering or just end it now?

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I would have loved for the powercreep to never exist and fair implementations from the beginning. Unfortunately they keep up a constant asymetrical powercreep.

I would also have been in favour of the game advancing at a faaaaar slower pace.

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There’s that famous, “ f you I got mine. But, it was super important when I didn’t have mine yet!”

I have seen at least a half dozen people say it fly like an arcade plane in realistic lol. This is just the same case every time something that gets released is OP.

It’s Op when someone else has it, it’s really not that serious when you do.

Seconded lol.

Dude same, its like theyre rushing th- Oh yeah its money. Its money. Who do you see wanting the Century Series in-game? People who actually know what they’re talking about and have an actual love for history and aviation. Who has mommy’s credit card? Top Gun Timmy. Do you think Timmy even knows what an F-101 is? No, but he sure as f_ knows what the F-15 and F-22 are.

Honestly at this point, I believe the only reason the F-15E was added was to justify adding the Euro-canards, and at the moment the EFT isn’t merely competitive with the 15E it is vastly superior.

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The FM is going to be changed i wouldnt get excited until we see it on the live server.

I’m really not, this isn’t an aircraft I will be grinding for. Sweden is next after I finish Japan air tree. And I mostly play GRB, almost exclusively. However, since these aircraft affect GRB big time, I pay attention to things just to stay in the loop and know what’s what from the people who car enough to learn everything since they play ARB mostly.

Helps a lot.

Well, the EF2000 will arrive with a nerfed FM and a nerfed weapon loadout.

Let’s see how competitive it will really be in the end.

What would you suggest then, the US get even better aircraft first and make the gap even bigger between the best and worse top tier aircraft?

Adding the Eurofighter now makes thing more balanced than they were before, then the US will probably receive upgraded vehicles early next year in a patch or two.

The issue is what I’m hearing from US players is that their suffering now is worse than Europe’s was before and that the Eurofighter being added will absolutely break the game, and it just won’t it may not even be better than the F-15E

By nobody you mean USA mains?

For example another 4+ generation fighter aircraft after " Storm Warning " update in the future

  • J-11B Late (Block 9)
  • MiG-29KR
  • Su-30MKI (late)
  • JF-17C
  • F-16V (Block 70/72 standard)
  • F-16C PoBIT (Block 70/72 standard)
  • F/A-18C (AN/APG-79(V)4)
  • F/A-18E/F Blk 2
  • J-11BG/J-11BHG

True, but it is just annoying how Gaijin is speedrunning its way to the “endgame” of the Air trees when there are tons of Gen 3 and 4 aircraft skipped. Especially when a lot of the capabilities of these Gen 4 and above airframes effectively mean nothing because of outdated gamemodes.

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You’re not exactly an “Average” player LMAO. Most players struggle to flare anything that isn’t a 9L

Gaijin is profiting off the constant imbalance, as players rush to buy premium jets and premium time to grind the most “meta” nation. A meta which is constantly changing, a state of constant imbalance that incites infighting between different groups and shifts attention from the real problem… This parallels real-world mechanisms so perfectly.

War Thunder players should come together to stop this madness. Yet, most of us fail to realize the greater struggle in favour of fighting small and insignificant battles.

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So a preliminary list of 4.5 gen planes would be something like:

🇷🇺: Su-27SM3, Su-35S, Su-30SM/SM2, MiG-29M/K, MiG-35
🇺🇸: F/A-18E, F-16V + further Eagle/Mudhen upgrades
🇨🇳: J-11B, J-15, J-16, J-10B/C
🇸🇪: Gripen E
🇮🇱: Sufa
🇩🇪/🇬🇧/🇮🇹: more Typhoon blocks
🇫🇷: Rafale B/M + more blocks
🇯🇵: F-2

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Also Su-35 a.k.a. Su-27M