Where are all the other gen 4.5 aircraft?

Just saying…there is nothing to complain about…Gaijin is already giving the Eurofighter fantasy nerfs.

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then you don’t understand, we didn’t advocate for EFT/Rafale nerfs, all we advocated for similar airframes to be present in all the other tech trees.

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Only US main not everyone and they (along with Russia) had enough now it their turn to get nothing

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F-18C would have gone to Usa, Germany, Sweden, Italy, maybe even Britain

one phrase sums up all that is wrong…

also almost the same level of air-to-ground armaments if not better than EFT

Fighter generations aren’t clearly defined things anyway, what’s 4th gen to one person is 4.5 to another, same with 4.5 and 5th gen, you can’t ask where the other 4.5 gens are without defining what you mean by 4.5 gen

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who’s mad? this major I see much less Madness than in the 3 Previous ones

mainly because for once 4 usually Just below Meta nations get to be top dog

generally I’ve seen only acceptance from the USSR main part and slight annoyance from the SWE and JP communities

only the US and Chinese communities seem mad this time but that could just be my bubble

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by now I believe it’s basically impossible that we see a Swiss Hornet in the German tree

there shouldn’t be any nation in game in the role of top dog, it’s imbalance in it’s perfect form…

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but there always is one or sometimes 2 Top dog nations

usually those were US and USSR, in the current live meta the US and Israel are the OP nations with the F-15E and I

it doesn’t justify the imbalance, that it was like that before or for a long time or that it’s their turn to dominate.

wait some updates dude there u can have ur Gripen E xD

Truth is, and what I believe the majority of people talking about the F-18 think…it’s LATE. F-18A at the very least could be in the game for over a year. F-18C (and Su-33) could’ve been added earlier this year, instead Gaijin decided to sling F-15s everywhere.

Nobody is saying the US NEEDS new planes every single update. They’re saying the Hornet should be in the game already lol. With things like EFT, Rafale and F-15E around, F-18C is probably heavily outclassed already, god even against the F-15C probably. Meta now is slinging AMRAAMs as high and fast as you can go, and I don’t think a Legacy Hornet would outclimb and outspeed the vast majority of its competition.

Also some response like “Oh but now you feel like other nations”, “It’s the US’ stime to get nothing” is absurdly shallow. F-4F ICE was added late, Su-33 should’ve been added months ago. Some East German planes also took longer than necessary to be added… so on and so on. This happens to everyone. And is happening with the Hornet for at least a year lol. It’s simply late, we’re better off with the Super Hornet atp.

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Su27 is great, even after the addition of AMRAAMs (not SM or 11A). I find getting kills quite easy and it is not difficult at all to admit that they are great planes, from there however, things are indeed a lot worse.

Mainly cause we built up hype over J11B and J10B, and then they just vanished, although I still have the slightest of hopes for them to show up later. Also people are quite annoyed about HQ17 being a ctrl c+v, and the only thing in addition is a thermal with 3 km more self destruction distance.

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I think the Chinese communities were hoping for the J-10B and/or J-11B and not seeing them is disappointing, there’s still some hope but no crying or raging about it.

The US community on the other hand seems to feel hard done by with other nations getting potentially superior aircraft and feels entitled to both have the F/A-18 (which in fairness should have come over a year ago in it’s early form) and for the F-15E to remain the absolute best aircraft, which is incredibly annoying to hear from nations that haven’t had the best of times at top tier, Germany particularly but the British Gripen has a max of 4 R-Darters which is not very many missiles that are worse than the AMRAAM, and even the Italian Gripen is subpar compared to the F-15C let alone E. If anything it sucks that Sweden and Russia didn’t receive anything as the Gripen E/NG would have increased missile loadout to 8 afaik and the SU-30 could have fixed some of the flight model issues with the SU-27, or the R-77 being fixed would have been a massive help.

Not unless we get Block 70 and above. F-16V

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and I get that and I’m with you on that hope

but just now claiming imbalance shouldn’t exist when they always have claimed oh if you just build an aircraft as steong as ours you’d have gotten one in the past from thr US community is what’s annoying me

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Every X nation main will want to have an easy time with said nation lol. As soon as they’re dethroned, they’ll be bummed about it, obviously. Their once uncontested, shiny, point, click, get kill jet, now is getting shot down just as easily as everything else.

As for the F-18, yes, it should be in the game already, over a year minimum as you said. And that’s the main issue. It really is crazy we’re in EFT, Rafale, F-15E territory, yet not even the F-18A is in the game. And I wouldn’t even say I’m an US main, as I play top tier with 5 nations, soon to be 7. Gripen is falling behind, Su-27 general gameplay is painful, R77 is bad, J10/J11 B delayed feels a tiny bit weird, we might see them in the next major, F-18C is so late we’re better off just skipping to the Super Hornet, but I’m kinda scared they’d make F-18A or C a squadron or premium vehicles… Lots of things going on but sadly most people in this forum are just repeating “womp womp no hornet you already have F-15E”, brother… that’s the tip of the iceberg 😅

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