there were probably forums(dont have prove that the r60m was similiar to the aim9l(which is far from the truth even back then))
People complained because initially it was only the MiG-29 and F-16A (block 10) on the dev. And people were (rightfully) saying: “Hey maybe we shouldn’t let 1 plane have both SARH missiles + better IR missiles while the other has no SARH missiles and only the worse IR missiles.”
the r27r(NOT the r27er) and the radar were inferior to the f16 radar and aim7f.
The FM of the F15 allowed you to dive at the furball and launch aim9l at 4-5km range.
the r60m only get lockas reliable at 2-3km and that was more or less the max range.
R-73 is ofc a better missile than the aim9l but it the aim9l comes close to the r73 in performance and range.
Given the better FM and better BVR capabilities it should have had r73´s at release.
Instead gaijin gave the mig29 missiles which it doesnt had and win 2 bvr duels. After doing this it was more or less useless…
Absolutely not.
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Again, the F-16A ADF was only revealed on release of the update. On the dev server where they tested R-73 only the base F-16A was available.
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close combat the r73 wins but you cant really launch them further, and back then the irccm didnt rlly work(nowadays it works much better)
I never see 11.7 in my MiG-29A, I always get uptiered and get stuck fighting aim120’s with 2 skimpy er’s and R60m’s. I want the ER removed off my mig and replaced with the r73’s its supposed to have.
relax, the f18A and the F18C are coming soon.
12.3 and 11.3, 12.7 and 11.7 will become the purgatory of this game, still the same as when the f14 IRAF came to the game.
if aim9l was the old aim9l? yeah but aim9l has been very much nerfed.
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will not happen due to too many new or inexperienced players will play them, so easy food for capable fighters. su27sm-players(easiest way to su30sm) will purge the premium f18 and the early version will not be played when the player already has the f14. so I dont think they will dominate…
how isnt it
closer to an aim9j with longer range in my experience, doesnt reach as far as a 9g
its somewhere between 9j and 9g yeah
15.0 should be added with the introduction of the F-15E and F-15I and got worst with Rafale and Eurofighters. They made a decompression and months after make a new one that is even worse.
Like a F-15A fighting a Eurofighter, it’s offensive.
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Another compression thread lol
Btw u should not struggle against mirage f1 u have way better radar missiles
but they have better IR missiles, missiles with IRCCM, almost unexistent in 11.7/12.0
U jave flares
As long u are aware and ppl dont 0.8km behind u
u should not have a problem
Meanwhile u have better radar missiles so its fair
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IRCCM makes difficult to dodge IR missiles, and most of the Mirage players know that they need to launch them at 0.8/1.0km
Ik what irccm is and i play mirage 1c
If u have awearnes u can either 1 flare it or pre flare it
Also if u turn your ab off its much easier to flare it
Awearnes is the key and exept that all other mirage f1 missiles are trash
Also u have decent fp and u are faster so again if u keep ur position right u shouldnt have a problem
I promise u mirage f1 go against 120 and f90 is way worse