ive played the br 90% of the time you fight F5 models or you fight other planes that dogfight you and mig 23 is probably the strongest 11.7
the only time you dont see furballs of planes is full uptiers to 13.0 when you see 120s
nah 99% of matches at 11.7 are against m1fc, bisons, f4s and other mig 23s. f5s arent THAT common. and whilst dogfighs happen, they dont happen that much.
that br is my most played br i quite like phantoms and the mig23.
there is no BVR combat at this br
they happen quite often dogfights stop at 13.0 and above
there no longer traditional GUN dogfights there missile dogfights now
sure, most fights happen at 15 kilometers and under though
all combat is ACM with some missile shots
Air combat manoeuvring (ACM) is the tactic of moving, turning, and situating one’s fighter aircraft in order to attain a position from which an attack can be made on another aircraft. Commonly associated with dogfighting
mig 23 is very good at this
this is just plain wrong though, fox 1s dominate the br, 99% of my kills come from 10< kilometers fox 1s. a small minority are dogfights.
you gotta manuver to get on there tail to get that fox-1 kill which is ACM or by exstention dogfighting
not really in my experience
from my experince playing mig 23MLA i rarely every engauge anyone at distance i force close range fights
r24rs are better at range in my experience. 10km shots are 90% of my kills, as for r60ms theyre pretty terrible in dogfights because of how easy they are to flare, so i mostly use them for quick ambushes and it works decent
i use r24R to survive the merge R60mks arent best dogfight missiles but are far more preferable over the 9G for dogfights
r60ms arent good at dogfights either, and theyre pretty bad for ambushes cause of their low ranges, 9g are great at ambushes because of how long range they are, 4 9gs have much more potential for impact than 4 r60ms. if you think f4j and mig23 are equal its likely because youre playing f4j wrong, theyre very different aircraft.
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F4-J speclizes in longer range combat thats it missile bus you sit at distance and fire missiles ive used R60MK and its a short range high manuveribility missile good for close quarters fights 9G is a ranged FOX–1 missile you launch it at targets 3 miles plus and its long range it hits cause the burners off
MIG-23 can do both long and ACM fights F4-J can only do Long range fights
f4j is much better at long range, mig 23m has only 2 r24rs after that its much weaker. f4j has 8 great missiles.
you need to play the f4j more