Obviously, no one is allowed to destroy them, or else they’re too OP
Magic II is incredibly strong compared even to R-24T/R though, they are essentially two guaranteed kills from any aspect. As long as you don’t throw them at people far away, they’ll happily ignore flares from players not flaring correctly.
S530F is a poor missile, certainly. But Magic II is insanely good. I don’t agree that Mirage F1 should go any lower while retaining Magic II. But neither should any MiG-23 variant. (Even the MiG-27M/K that doesn’t seem to have much of a niche outside of throwing KAB500KR and KH-29T at tanks in ground battle).
tbh i think the F1 should lose its magic 2 and go lower, it would become much more fun to fly since you could actually use your flight performance and dogfight people
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The best thing they could do is to make a F1 early with magic 1 and r530
A F1 late with magic 1 and s530f (should have been the f1-200 but it’s a premium)
and the F1CT being the latest variant with the current load out of magic 2 and s530f.
Similar things could have been done with mirage 3 btw:
3C early with r510 and aim 9b,
3C late with r530 and aim 9b
3E with r530 and magic 1.
Don’t know what to do with the the Mirage 5f though
honestly the mirage 3C and 3E are fine, sure no CM’s but they honestly dont need them, theyre fast and agile enough to avoid most missiles
absolutely agree with the F1 early and late idea though
I personally think the Mirage F1C and F1C-200 should get Magic II removed and their battle ratings lowered to F-4E or a little above F-4E tier so they can make use of their entire kit against enemies that aren’t always Gen 4 or highly upgraded Gen 3+ aircraft. Mirage F1CT can keep the Magic II and stay 12.0 BR since it has better tools to survive that BR, despite the reduction in firepower. The improved RWR is a huge situational awareness improvement. If players don’t like the idea of the premium F1C-200 getting a capability nerf for significant BR reduction, then they should have the option of trading it for a version of the Mirage F1CT (ofc retaining premium status) that keeps the Magic II missiles and gains improved RWR as a bonus.
Well for the mirage 3 it’s more to introduce a better progression through the br system and also make a balanced contender to the early mig 21s.
Sorry for the digression as it is off topic
Magic 2s in front aspect are not guaranteed kills. I’ve done head ones with them before, I could be 0.6km away, and they’ll still go after flares. Rear aspect is a different story, as long as I’m within 3km, it’s always a guaranteed elim.
You know, the Mirage F1C at one point did not have Magic 2s. Guess what? It was considered the worst premium, and a complete waste of money. The Matra radars are piss poor, considering the fact that they can be chaffed off by a bubblegum wrapper, and the Magic 1s were undesirable at a time when all aspects were king (yes, the R-60Ms at one point did not suck).
Also, it is now 12.0, it’s not going to fare well with the worst radar missiles at the BR (those radar missiles are only good at 10.3 because no one has the ability to counter them), as well as substandard rear aspects when you have MiG 23s with R-24s, F/A-18s with AIM 7Ps and Ms, F-16s with AIM 7s and AIM 9Ls, MiG 29s with R-27ERS and ETs. There is no way that plane will be competitive. The only competition they will have is: who will be the first one to quit in a complete uptier.
I used 530F extensively lately, and while you present some cool “tricks”, the 530F is still one of the worst radar missiles for the BRs it shows up at lol
Only because the mig15 is currently massively undertiered, yes.
There are two F1s, simply give the F1C the magic 1 and put it at 11.0, and keep the f1ct how it is
They do need them, and no they don’t avoid most missiles. It takes a lot of skill to fly these and do well.
Magic II is not stong at all is flerable with 1 flare seems to me IRCCM not working at all + is not 50G like irl many reports have been send already and current BR for F-1-200 it’s a joke overall 12 BR meaning you will play vs 13 all the time and Radar missile slingers start at 12 so you can’t even bomb because Mig 23 ML will go first and bomb bases with napalm atm French missile are joke except MICA seems to me many of you not have Clue about current situation of French Jets.
I’m going to talk over this guy and say the magic 2 is perfectly fine and incredibly strong when used correctly. It’s also far more agile than the magic 1 leading me to believe the agility is also fine/correct.
Don’t care if you write over my facts are facts ,multiple reports have being send already and they acknowledge the problem Matra Magic 2 have same characteristic of Russ missile in game so yes QQ more.
https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=592
They aren’t facts, they’re just ramblings of a player that doesn’t know what he’s talking about, lol.
You know damn well who’s doing the cryin’ here :)
“Magic 2 its not strong…”
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Lmao every post you do is sarcastic with 0 insight, keep it up
So the MIG is somehow under tiered at 8.3? Its not but lets pretend it is and it goes to 8.7. Now it fights 20G missiles with no flares. Along with MIG 19/ 21
So now to balance the other flareless migs have to go to 9.7 and now fight J7D and F5s. Not feeling it.
Its a trash can system and logically the only way is for a lower BR up/ down.