Not true
You can have experience of fighting something to comment on it, but it’s more valuable to have experience using it, and most valuable to experience both sides.
Take the crew lock on bad matches.
If GJ does not balance, you must do it yourself.
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I don’t just have experience fighting something. I do extensive research on all vehicles. I also just think I put more effort into learning than most on this game… I ALSO own the majority of vehicles in game. So, to summarize… educated extrapolation.
MF.1 is very fun to play because of 530F.
5km behind target , not directly , in an angle.
Lock with Radar. Fire 530E (don’t even take 530F) . Opponent uses only chaff to not waste flares. Profit. Then he cries that 530F ignores chaff in game’s chat. Write a word “530E” . Receive a wishful insult. Say “thank you i will” . Both laugh after.
Seriously , 530F has a use. Toss it for 3d partying at relatively close range (3-4km) . The opponent either will see it and start poping everything he has (giving gun solution to friendly while he does) and even if he succeeds , you already messed his attention/tracking. Or he won’t see a thing anyway (the missile is fast) and you get a kill/ assist.
The worst thing about 530F is that is heavy. You don’t want them on you, you have to shoot them first.
While with 530E you can decoy the decoy, people knowing you have M2 they’ll try and preflare. Wait 1 moment, toss 1x 530E they will flare, toss 2d they will flare again… toss the M2 they haven’t preflared , or cut engine or even have wasted their flares and anything they have in mind won’t work anyway by that time. They don’t expect it.
Because of M2 being good , they expect everything coming from MF.1 to be M2.
Point is , 530F has its uses. It’s a crap missile, but you can make some fun in occasions.
or we can just narrow the matchmaking BR range to 0.7
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0.7 up/ down fixes 99% of it.
No more mig 15 vs mig 21, F5 vs harrier, sabre vs F104. Etc etc
1.0 is too much…
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i think “crap missile” vastly undersells just how terrible the 530F really is.
it misses a jet stalling out of the air. Ive had that happen numerous times.
thats how bad it is.
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I’ve missed the AI with them, and I shot from 6km
which makes OP’s post even more stupid and pathetic if he thinks the Mig 23 should go down but for some reason the Mirage F1 with a vastly worse FM and kit should stay up. Big Three players are so predictable.
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Obviously, no one is allowed to destroy them, or else they’re too OP
Magic II is incredibly strong compared even to R-24T/R though, they are essentially two guaranteed kills from any aspect. As long as you don’t throw them at people far away, they’ll happily ignore flares from players not flaring correctly.
S530F is a poor missile, certainly. But Magic II is insanely good. I don’t agree that Mirage F1 should go any lower while retaining Magic II. But neither should any MiG-23 variant. (Even the MiG-27M/K that doesn’t seem to have much of a niche outside of throwing KAB500KR and KH-29T at tanks in ground battle).
tbh i think the F1 should lose its magic 2 and go lower, it would become much more fun to fly since you could actually use your flight performance and dogfight people
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The best thing they could do is to make a F1 early with magic 1 and r530
A F1 late with magic 1 and s530f (should have been the f1-200 but it’s a premium)
and the F1CT being the latest variant with the current load out of magic 2 and s530f.
Similar things could have been done with mirage 3 btw:
3C early with r510 and aim 9b,
3C late with r530 and aim 9b
3E with r530 and magic 1.
Don’t know what to do with the the Mirage 5f though
honestly the mirage 3C and 3E are fine, sure no CM’s but they honestly dont need them, theyre fast and agile enough to avoid most missiles
absolutely agree with the F1 early and late idea though
I personally think the Mirage F1C and F1C-200 should get Magic II removed and their battle ratings lowered to F-4E or a little above F-4E tier so they can make use of their entire kit against enemies that aren’t always Gen 4 or highly upgraded Gen 3+ aircraft. Mirage F1CT can keep the Magic II and stay 12.0 BR since it has better tools to survive that BR, despite the reduction in firepower. The improved RWR is a huge situational awareness improvement. If players don’t like the idea of the premium F1C-200 getting a capability nerf for significant BR reduction, then they should have the option of trading it for a version of the Mirage F1CT (ofc retaining premium status) that keeps the Magic II missiles and gains improved RWR as a bonus.
Well for the mirage 3 it’s more to introduce a better progression through the br system and also make a balanced contender to the early mig 21s.
Sorry for the digression as it is off topic
Magic 2s in front aspect are not guaranteed kills. I’ve done head ones with them before, I could be 0.6km away, and they’ll still go after flares. Rear aspect is a different story, as long as I’m within 3km, it’s always a guaranteed elim.
You know, the Mirage F1C at one point did not have Magic 2s. Guess what? It was considered the worst premium, and a complete waste of money. The Matra radars are piss poor, considering the fact that they can be chaffed off by a bubblegum wrapper, and the Magic 1s were undesirable at a time when all aspects were king (yes, the R-60Ms at one point did not suck).
Also, it is now 12.0, it’s not going to fare well with the worst radar missiles at the BR (those radar missiles are only good at 10.3 because no one has the ability to counter them), as well as substandard rear aspects when you have MiG 23s with R-24s, F/A-18s with AIM 7Ps and Ms, F-16s with AIM 7s and AIM 9Ls, MiG 29s with R-27ERS and ETs. There is no way that plane will be competitive. The only competition they will have is: who will be the first one to quit in a complete uptier.
I used 530F extensively lately, and while you present some cool “tricks”, the 530F is still one of the worst radar missiles for the BRs it shows up at lol