@noamax
I’ve been saying F-15E/C are equivalent this entire time. I never said otherwise. A marginal difference in acceleration for notably worse general flight performance is an equivalent factor, not a superior factor.
I’ve also said that F-104S and F-4E are equivalent, and Kurnass 2000 is superior to F-104S ASA despite F-104S ASA being faster.
Also noamax, I’ve been developing raw data for the last 2 years… I’ve been involved in over 50 bug reports of supersonic aircraft; I know how to get this data, I know how to do these tests because I took the time to learn.
I use the exact tests real-life militaries use. If you don’t like it, go complain to NATO.
yeah i know the f15c is pretty fast in a strait line but it feels like it hits an acceleration wall at the medium altitudes that the euro and f15e don’t have as much and it can keep up with the rafale but that jets better in every other stat than speed and missiles so its fine, aslo wouldn’t the j10 need to be 14.0 too since it was just as good as the f15c in the previous meta
Both F-15s hit an acceleration wall.
J-10A is equal to Mirage 2000/F-16 in acceleration. All of which are around a minute slower than F-15C minimum difference.
the wall hits at different top speeds tho the f15c slows down a lot at 1800kph at 6000m while the f15E will easily hit 2000+kph at the same altitude in less time, i think the speeds between 5-6000m are the most important since thats kinda the meta alt and that where the f15e starts to gap the f15C and other old jets
Aircraft performance is more than just engines.
I apologize if any of my statements seemed upsetting BTW, we’re both players with our perspectives and I respect yours despite my disagreement.
Listen f15c engines are only better when u are very high and very fast
U right that f15c is better at df but that isnt smt to raise the br for since u dont use that
While f15e has much better acceleration on low speed until 1.8 mach
Also the nerfs for the f15e berly effected on low speed performance
I tell u f15e has more ttw when it stock! So imagine when u spaded
F-15C weighs ~6 tons less while having weaker engines, that’s why it’s equal.
~3 tons from empty weight, ~3 tons from fuel weight.
Plus the fact that F-15E has a generally worse flight model than the F-15C on top of the mass difference.
The TWR is higher, but that doesn’t help it outside of acceleration.
Yak-141 has the best acceleration in the game, it dogfights at best as well as an F-16C due to its design and flight model and is significantly slower in top speed.
Yak-141 is to F-16A what F-15E is to F-15C though the F-16A and Yak-141 have more differences.
It’s okay for slightly different airframe performances to be the same BR.
Mirage 2000 5F and F-16C are the same BR despite the F-16C being better in airframe performance.
Kind of my point.
F-15C being able to pull 11 - 12Gs vs F-15E’s 8 - 9Gs peak AOA helps in high-speed maneuvers when they’re needed.
Yeah, the F-15E accelerates faster and THAT is why it’s able to keep up with F-15C in capabilities.
They have ever so slightly different playstyles, very slight. Both are fast boom-zoomers, just the F-15E can’t pull AOA when it’s needed, and the F-15C can; and both can do long-range BVR because of the mass differences.
I’m not saying that F-15C should be a higher BR or that it’s superior, all I am saying is that they should be the same BR of 14.0 because the differences are sidegrades.
The difference between F-16C and F-15C is larger than the difference between F-15C and F-15E.
Even the difference between J-11A is larger than F-15E from F-15C.
Idk the numbers but u need to realise that in fox 3 meta the acceleretion is way more important then df performance
So bcuz of that the f15e is much better
Also the yak141 has better acceleration then the f15e only until mach 1 and maybe even less and i tested it myself
15c is on par with f16c and mirage2kf but typhoon will shit on it in every cenerio exept very long range bvr when u allready mach 2
And im saying that as someone that has 180 games on bazM and 123 games on f15i
If u have such a hot take u need to rethink of it
Try them both fully spaded cuz i saw u didnt even spaded the f15e
@noamax
I’m not alone in this, most people want F-15C at 14.0.
Just cause you’re louder than them doesn’t mean you’re more than them.
Popularity of perspective doesn’t mean it’s correct either.
Prove that Mirage 2000 accelerates faster than F-16C, I’ll wait.
Oh, and your performance in BazM is the same as F-15I.
