Bruh i never said that the f15c is equivlant
The f15e is
More reason why they’re all equivalent! Thank you!
@noamax “The F-15 isn’t equivalent, the F-15 is.” is such a bad take.
F-15C is the most OP 4th gen aircraft in the game right now because it’s under-BR’d.
? Please read what you put out, the F-15I is superior in Engine performance, radar performance, high alt BVR, CM count, CAS payload, cockpit and so on…
There is literally 0 reason they should be at the same BR
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Also better energy rotation
Of course, mate! You’re always welcome to keep living inside your bubble.
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Radar is identical, BVR is identical, CM count doesn’t matter cause 240 is all you need, CAS is irrelevant in air, same with cockpit.
F-15E/I is F-104S, F-15C is Kurnass.
Are you going to argue that F-104S should be 0.3 BR higher than F-4E just cause the F-104S accelerates 20 - 25% faster?
Blatantly false though, well I enjoyed your attempted ragebait, solid 3/10 this time.
Have a good rest of your day/evening.
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Bvr is not identical cuz f15i acceleration is much better bruh
U are the only one who thinks like that watch every video ask any player every one will say f15e/i is better(also f15c is sucked up to 14.0 anyway)
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Marginal* acceleration difference.
Clean:
F-15C:
1000kph: 31 seconds.
10,000 meters: 80 seconds.
Mach 1.5: 136 seconds.
F-15E:
1000kph: 29 seconds.
10,000 meters: 72 seconds.
Mach 1.5: 121 seconds.
Also peoples’ personally opinions mean nothing.
Raw data disproves everyones’ opinions even my initial ones.
I admitted my initial opinion of F-15E was wrong, why can’t you?
I incorrectly thought that the acceleration difference would matter in matches, and I thought its speed would matter more. Not only did it have a marginal difference in matches before the nerf, but post-nerf it made it so the differences were negligible due to the flight performance hit due to higher drag and higher fuel mass. And when I found out I admitted I was wrong and changed my stance based on new evidence.
F-15C and E share the same weapons, radar technology, countermeasure type and >120 amount.
F-15C has superior flight performance [F-4E], F-15E has superior acceleration [F-104S].
Also, if acceleration is everything why is F-14A IRIAF 12.7 when it accelerates worse than every 12.7 and many 12.3s. It’s a factor, but not the only factor, there’s a reason it’s 12.7 and it’s not because of its trash acceleration.
All AIM-120 F-15s should be 14.0.
Like what?
First of all below mach f15e accelerate much quicker and secind u can argue f15c is strong against 12.7 aircraft and such so its a br compression issue
but not better then f15e
The acceleration is much better and btw 10sec less is a massive diffrance and yes if 99%of ppl saying f15c is not undertierd u need to check yourself
Only in df which means nothing(and very high speed but u dont get to this speed)
Are u fr?
F14iaf has the best fox 3 in game against r24 and matra 530f
This must be a rage bait
Alright, since your post is claiming or implying that 99% of players have a skill issue in F-15C, I can’t take your posts seriously.
Any take that’s looking down on others is not one I will consider.
Oh and your post is claiming that F-14A IRIAF being 12.7 instead of 12.3 is “ragebait” lol
I hope you don’t mean it to say that.
All AIM-120 F-15s should be the same BR of 14.0.
F-14A IRIAF is balanced at 12.7 despite its trash acceleration.
i think the slower f15s are fine at 13.7 they arnt worse by a large margin but they arnt a lower br by a large margin either.
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Lol what?
We talking about the same plane that can bvr from 50km on 3d gen jets? Yes i think it should go up to 13.0 like f14b
Sure why not put av8+(has even better acceleration then f15c) and f4f ice too cuz they have 120
Ur logic is dumb no one agree with u
U want to be diffrent or smt but u are so wrong
F15e has more thrust then f15c when it stock!
U live in a bubble
You know what the slowest 13.7 is? Mirage 2000, it takes almost 4 minutes to get to mach 1.5.
F-15C takes 2.5 minutes.
Yet people claim that F-15C being as-fast in acceleration as Rafale, and marginally slower than Typhoon makes it worse… that’s a terrible take.
And now @noamax is claiming that F-4F ICE with its 4 minute time to mach 1.5 is equal to F-15E and F-15C.
AV-8B can’t even reach mach 1.5.
And it’s funny that noamax post portrays their thinking that the US military that developed these tests don’t agree with me… despite me using their tests and me agreeing with their tests… well, not the US military specifically but all of NATO that developed these tests.
F-15E weighs a minimum of 4 tons more than F-15C, and it’s closer to 5 - 6 tons in match because of peoples’ preferred fuel amounts.
I was kidding its your logic and in the 1000 time f15c isnt on par with f15e u said that not me
Go now to x ray and see the diffrances in the engine
It has like 2 ton more thrust
@noamax
I’ve been saying F-15E/C are equivalent this entire time. I never said otherwise. A marginal difference in acceleration for notably worse general flight performance is an equivalent factor, not a superior factor.
I’ve also said that F-104S and F-4E are equivalent, and Kurnass 2000 is superior to F-104S ASA despite F-104S ASA being faster.
Also noamax, I’ve been developing raw data for the last 2 years… I’ve been involved in over 50 bug reports of supersonic aircraft; I know how to get this data, I know how to do these tests because I took the time to learn.
I use the exact tests real-life militaries use. If you don’t like it, go complain to NATO.
yeah i know the f15c is pretty fast in a strait line but it feels like it hits an acceleration wall at the medium altitudes that the euro and f15e don’t have as much and it can keep up with the rafale but that jets better in every other stat than speed and missiles so its fine, aslo wouldn’t the j10 need to be 14.0 too since it was just as good as the f15c in the previous meta
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