People that usually complain about Pantsir is because they feel hat one nation is loved by Gaijin and others are not, adding a very powerful SPAA to a single nation and letting others rot for eternity is a not a good idea, that’s why i’ve said several times that the Pantsir addition was a mistake just like adding KH38MT before adding equivalent SPAAs to every nation.
If they did add them KH38MT wouldn’t be that sufficient as it is at the moment.
yes they do. its in the airspace that the pantsirs Killzone is. for them to do their job well they need that pantsir gone.
it isn’t yet. there’s no balance to the game in ground based air defence, nobody would be mad if everyone could deny the skies equally
lets see what nation the two best cas planes are on?
what a surprise they don’t have to worry about pantsir so have free reign.
So long after the Pantsir was released and people STILL dont know how to fight it just shows the ignorance of some people that expect that certain nations should be handheld and get everything handed to them on a silver plate…Pantsir is nothing special! Its effective range is something like 10km and everyone beyond that is absolutely skill issued and deserved to get smacked
Fair position to have, sir.
I’m not a content creator, and have never been a content creator, so no I never clipped anything.
I do however have these two screenshots:
Dropping GBUs at 22km and hitting before their speed got limited.
@_Ladies_Man_217 The issue is Pantsir is only powerful against Tornado, Mirage 4000, and… every other GBU only CAS in the game.
Pantsir equivalent SPAA would mean nothing, CAS would still be OP and unkillable, which is why I say it’s tone deaf to complain about the SPAA that’s weaker than the SPAA we need.
@Caernarvon02
SPAA have launch parameters no different to every other missile.
Pantsir’s missile can’t be launched on a target that’s too low, going too fast [just flat out] too close or too far based on the speed of the target launched on… which is how in 2023 I was able to be launched on over 15 times in a single match when I was in my F-16A ADF flying 3 - 10km close to Pantsirs.
Rafale is the best CAS in-game, and F-15E is tied with the Soviet CAS if not arguably superior due to the glide bombs making them even more immune to SPAA.
Neither of those 4 aircraft are on the same team as Pantsir, they never have to worry about Pantsir.
Pantsir CANNOT and has NEVER denied the skies in War Thunder against any semi-skilled player.
You can check my spoiler’d screenshots of just a fragment of what I did from November 2022 to October 2024.
Yep pull it with an A10 or an F111. Read First.
Pantsir is a top dog in its tech tree line, why would I go at it with an A10? How looney do you have to be to do that at all? A10 cant fight anything more than a guy with AK in flip flops (proven point) same as every heli pretty umch. Top tier SPAA is only viable to compare to top tier CAS, the fact that BR doesnt match, thats Gaijins problem. But taking Sep Vs out and supporting them with the A10 you are literally asking for trouble
What you said is “I am gonna make myself a victim and than complain that I am a victim”
Fun Fact: A10C is 12.0. No uptier needed! xD
Put BVM in 1.0, Whoever playing other things are making trouble! =DD
Make su25 back to 9.3! Whoever playing other things are making trouble! =DD
Knowing what I am saying, but decided to troll?
But not thw Bias KH38MT
I strongly disagree Kh38s speed makes it harder to shoot down. With SPAA that can track them. Whilst the AGM is infinitely easier. The AGM65s need fixed to atleast be somewhat realistic lol
Please, stick back to 11.0 to 12.0. Most common ammo is agm65b. More advanced ammo includes 65D on slow FMs
The Pantsir dominating is just a symptom of map design lagging behind the tech we get in game, we could simply provide an option for further back air spawns with a further back runway as well. Additionally, the intense cloud coverage isn’t helping since you can’t really see the missile prior to it splashing you, so I’d like to see those reduced in density as well.
Paveways have a max range of only ~14km when dropped from 10km 0.99ma, where the carrier have lost all manuverbility.
For agm65s it would be far better, but considering the carriers well, Long and slow climb
For CAP they need that range and space to engage CAS, but the problem within the 20km radius is still too much.
it would be very helpful if gaijin didnt artificially limit gbu drop speed to mach despite weapons manuals listing mach 1.4 below 20k feet and unlimited above that
on top of not giving many aircraft that can carry gps+iog+laser guided bombs these weapons
I just hunted a Pansir up close with my trusty Hydras like an absolute boss in the AH-64D. Good times but he tried.
