What makes A-7K Corsair II 11.0

Yes. But the flight characteristic difference between A-7 and Bucc isn’t drastic in-game
Also, if we consider A-7D/E on 10.3BR

Maybe sending A-7K down to 10.7BR wouldn’t big deal
Def easier and better than confessing to someone who has a fiancée.

About F-5A(G). She is in a twisted sweetspot. A bit too good for keeping her in 11.0 but not good enough to nerf her to 11.3, especially when we think those modernised Thai F-5s stuck at 11.3 with better missiles, and engine.

But the A-10A has 4 AIM-9L while A-7K has 2
Also, there are A-10A early which has 2 and being 10.3BR, just like how SHAR FRS.1 and FRS.1e go.

Worse but not important flight performance difference if we consider the roles of those.
While 2 extra 9L gives more chance.

*4 Missiles if you give up the gunpod.

In conclusion. A-7K is somewhat mid between 10.7 and 11.0 but fits 10.7 more
But you don’t want to admit it because you want to act like Toby.

Tonka, B-66B, and A-7K. You came up and ruined the fun of attacker mains.

Lastly, thank you for being an FAA hater due to neglecting SHAR /j.

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@Stockholm_Blend

F-111F and F-16 both have 6 missiles.
Mig-23M and Mig-29 9.12 both have 6 missiles.
F-105D has 4 missiles while F-5A has 2.

Less missile count on a better aircraft is not a downgrade.

J-7E doesn’t have AIM-9Ls, it has significantly worse rear-aspect only AIM-9s.

Also, I am the attacker main.
I’ve used hundreds of attackers as fighters. And yes, I even use A-10A as a fighter.

Man, you are wordplaying things

Problem of A-7 IS
It is a better airframe in ONLY IN PAPER.
Unlike other examples you brought.

You are bringing fighters to rationalise Gaijin’s Blunder about Attackers.

This is a false equivalent even if you don’t want to admit it.

So, you are saying “I am attacker main, I played lots ot attacker, so don’t shoot me I am on your side?”

This sounds similar to comparing Michael and Toby, Darryl and Stanley.

No matter whether you are an attacker main or not
Being the attacker main doesn’t guarantee you’re right, or Autocorrect.

Thanks for sealioning.

Always triggers me somewhat bad when people complain about attackers, and then discuss only their air-to-air inadequacies…

If you like this type of aircraft, best fly them in Sim. If you don’ like them because they do poorly in RB against fighters, don’t fly them in RB. That’s my personal opinion, unpopular as it may be.

It’ boils down to “chose the aircraft for the game mode” vs. “chose the game mode for the aircraft”.

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Or ground rb where it gets fnf weapon count from 10.3 corsair and lana flir from 10.7 corsair. And on top of that track range gets improved, 5km vs 3km on previous corsairs. And all aspect sidewinders.

F-5A(G) has 9L at 11.0 too

A-10A can stay at 10.7 it has double the 9Ls

Cool, glad we agree that F-5AG is under-BR’d and A-7K is fine where it is.
Superior aircraft always need to be higher BR to inferior aircraft.

You’re cherry picking one of the worst performing MiG-21s in-game for a flawed argument, most MiG-21s in-game will in fact beat the A-7K in a dogfight (at around 11.0). And if we’re going to compare the Bis to the 7k, why not compare it to the J-7E whilst we’re at it?

Or what about the J-7D which sits at a lower BR than the A-7K?

The A-7K could easily be moved down to 10.7 and be balanced, especially if the J-7D already sits down at that BR. You’re treating the A-7K as if it’s some wonder-weapon (it’s not).

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@TPS_Hydra
You meant to reply to Stockholm, as they were the one that mentioned Mig-21Bis, not I.

I’ll add your graphs to my post as well.
Glad to see yourself, SilentTracker, and I all in agreement:
1- Mig-21Bis is a poor comparison.
2- A-7K is not a wonder weapon.

The only thing we disagree on is AIM-9Js being only 0.3 apart from AIM-9Ls when aircraft are equal.
After all, I’ve been lobbying for major decompression at 13.0 in part because I believe AIM-9Ls easily add 0.7BR of improvement to a good airframe.

bug report time

Where did you get your idea that No Harrier 2 has AIM-9M?

probably from the fact that the GR.7 isn’t one of the two 11.3 Harrier IIs

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Ohh joy another A-7K thread, surprised a mod hasn’t come an locked it yet…

I guess it has to do with being more recently reduced last year to 11.0 over years of being at 11.3, still this bathtub could still go down by 0.3 an not be a plague, especially being a somewhat older event machine that no everyone has so to which it wouldn’t be a mess with over spamming.

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even if it were better than it is, being 10.7 it still wouldn’t be nowhere near as cancerous as some of the fighters at a lower BR with technically worse armaments

There’s a reason Harrier 2s are also a higher BR than AV-8S.

Well, he originally compared Harrier 1 and Harrier 2.

And GR.7 was the first Harrier 2, which got added into the game. armed with AIM-9L before the addition of 9M, and so on.

More countermeasures, better engine and RWR, and AIM-9M.

So, I mentioned GR.7

I don’t think I blundered.

Nice try with the divide and conquer.
‘We all agree about this point except him’
:/

Me, I kept bullying new players who would fight me in headons with my 2 30mm gunpods and my main cannon lol

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Or the other way round in cases such as the tornado. How the hell its 11.7 in air but 11.3 in ground beats me.

I mean, this IS an Air RB thread, not a sim one

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Yes, I’m fully aware.

My point being: If I insist of flying an aircraft in one game mode where it is out of meta and at a disadvantage, while there is a game mode where it IS meta and at an advantage, why not do the latter? Or why not fly something else if I want to fly a certain game mode?

Or in other words:

What’s one’s priority: Play the preferred game mode, or play the preferred vehicle. Both together is possible - but impossible to achieve for every vehicle…

I regularly read similar complaints as this thread about the same class of aicraft - attackers: AMX, Warthog, Corsair II, Buccaneer, Tornado, you name it. It’s always the same pattern, people trying to coax those specialized aircraft to perform in a role they are not designed for. Not every vehicle has to be good at every job, in every game mode. (Frankly, IMO, that would actually be boring, no?)

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Been playing for a little over a year now and never thought abt it like that. Thank you.

Please understand, my intention here was for education. Not to bash this kool aircraft. Thank you Game Master for taking the time.

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