waht is the first?
The US also needs better teammate
thats true
Strv 122s and Leopard 2A7s are generally considered the shared nr.1 MBTs at top tier.
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should i grind sweden or us? and for cas, im not an air player, should i just buy prmnium jets and helis?
That is a fair argument. They can always yeet the SEPv2 from the game and replace it with the SEPv3.
But it’s at least easier to agree when the argument is coming from someone who at least played a lot of nations and is good at the game.
Top tier premium jets and helis will likely get stomped in GRB, since they are generally pretty mid.
Which nation you should grind? If you want to use the full lineup I would say US, but if you want to mostly stick to MBTs I would say Sweden. You can’t really go wrong wirh either.
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Great that you have a good experience with it! But for me its 50/50 it can rarely penetrate lower plate
Agree! Im not good with it but the m3a3 bradley is really fun to play with and an upgraded one would be amazing
Wild take to say the 2a4m is one of the best 11.7 tanks in the game lol
LWS is mostly useful against strike drones, get warned then smoke away lol
and helis, and other mbts
when i first stared toptier with m1 abrams, i blamed it on stock heat. now idk, mayby its about the players, or i suck at toptier, i only get 2-3kills, if im lucky
get the su25bm, its very good at 10.3
not really, it only has bombs, no guided, so i wounndt
cool, im grinding sweden right now, i have the leopard 1a5, orginally, i wanted to grind without prmnium, so reserve to top, but i changed , becouse i want the strivs so badly
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none of them has APS
good joke.
better turret rotation and same bad elevation
also has some relikt if i remember right.
its literally (arguably as there is also an Ariette) worst 12.7 MBT.
Compared to 2A4M.
But some people say it’s useless because the cars or countries they play in have LWS, but they don’t see the value in what they have!!! They’re probably just trash who dies once and then quits.
Ah yeah so it’s okay for the US to get a 600 pen round which is better than most nations top tier rounds at 11.7 with a 5 second reload?
Demanding historical accuracy only for one specific thing is kinda stupid and shows a bias for yourself there.
Then give it it’s correct BR?
Oh what about all the chieftain rounds?
or the centurion rounds?
or all the russian rounds?
Chinese rounds?
Or even the DM23 rounds fired from L7 cannons.
Almost every APDS or APFSDS has the wrong pen due to using half of the Lanz-Odermatt formula .
For full calibre AP/APHE etc they use if I remember rightly Jacob de Merre formula or something like that.
? and there are so many under performing rounds on worse vehicles, if you buff one to get it’s IRL pen then you need to buff them all.
It’s fine as it is? it’s extremely mobile, fast firing as well as pretty trolly armour.
the F4S isn’t even a 12.7 cas plane though?
No guided munitions in AGM 65s etc.
Poor RWR for the BR
Poor Fm for the BR
poor A2A loadout as well for the BR.
the F4S is 11.0 in ground RB so it’s not a 12.7 plane.
Theoritically could it not fire Dm43 or 53, not sure if KEW is worse than 43 or not.
The T80U has going for it the mobility which is decent at least forwards. As well as somewhat okay frontal protection. rounds like M829A2 will straight up pen it like swiss cheese.
I’d generally say it’s round makes it proper tedious to play in comparisson with better T80s at 12.7 or the fact you can just play the T80B at 10.7 and it’s better / more fun for the BR.
The Abrams i still believe should be 12.3, i’ve no idea how it sits at 12.0 xD They are also my most used top tier MBTs it makes little to no sense them being at 12.0 while stuff like leopard 2PL is 12.3
The Abrams? It can survive quite a lot man, providing you don’t just ram in there like a maniac.
I find it to be one of the easiest / best top tier MBTs to use.
As well as that, the point was that the M829A2 can literally cut clean through the T80U, leaving one of it’s main featurues, irrelevant.
has the same ERA, has the same elevation didn’t even realise that the 80U was as bad, I’ve not touched it in a long time now.
As much as i wanna argue as I do well with the 90M it really is.
I’ve noticed using it that the main feature aka the frontal armour on the UFP is what people seem to constantly shoot.
The T90M if people took an extra half second to aim would likely get slapped more often.