What is worng with US toptier ground?

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From 11.7, Us MBT are based on the M1A1 and M1A2. So we got the:

  • M1A1 HC

  • M1A1 Senrai Maidens

  • M1A1 Clickbait

  • M1A1 Click Bait

  • M1A2

  • M1A2 SEP

  • M1A2 SEP V2

Three of them has APS, and wich two of the are behind a paywall. If we look at Germany:

  • Leopard 2A4M, 2A4M snerai M, 2a5, 2a5 pl, 2a6, 2pso and 2a7v. If im correct , none of them has any APS. But those tanks, are goeted and one of the best tanks in game. For russia:

  • T72b3, a, t80u, d, eu1, eu1 senrai, t80uk, t80bvm t90m. 1 ove them has aps, and 2 has lws.
    but russian tanks are also very good. so my point is, why doesnt US mbt get their upgrade? Gajin could add m1a2 sepv3, m1e1, m256e1 (l/55) m1a2 blazer, and teh M1A1 sa ( just like the m1a2 sepv2) Gajin cant add stelth jets to warthunder before they aczually fix us toptier. if i was somere incorrect, please inform me, i am not a robot, i dont know evreything. say in the comments waht could make usa stronger.

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What Abrams has a LWS?

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The abrams tanks are alright, the issue is mostly on the teams being full of premium players meaning most of your team will be dead before five minutes into the match, the abrams itself does kind of suffer from the lower front plate not being armored and a bit more heavily by the amount of modules it has that just leave it helpless, but overall its I’d say a good MBT in game. Maybe gajin could just buff the lower front plate and upper front plate by giving the LFP more armor (the armor values are all guess work anyways might as well shift it a little for balance) and making the UFP on it and other Nato mbts properly shatter and deflect rounds.

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ahh shi, sry i was checking otehr nations, must slip in while writing, my bad

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Na its ok I thought I was trippin when I thought I missed that the Abrams had a LWS.

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Let’s not pretend that the softkill APS systems like the ones on the M1A1 HC, T-90A, T-80UK and Oplot are any usefull at 11.7+ though.

Most of the threats they counter stop existing above 9.0-9.7.

Also, counting the soft kill APS on the M1A1 HCs but not the similar soft kill APS on the T-80UK is certainly a decision.

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yeah me too. i dont know how i got my self to wright that, must be becouse its late. have any ideas to improve usa ?

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got any ideas to make us toptier better?

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I would argue that in terms of ground vehicles US is already one of the better nations at top tier.

Only thing they need is the SEPv3 as a counterpart to the Strv 122s and Leo 2A7s. None of the Russian MBTs are currently problematic.

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  • T72B3 sucks mate mobility, poor, survivability . poor, protection okay , round decent but M829A1 is still better and found at a lower BR on the M1A1.

  • T80U is okay but an M1A1 HC and M1A2 beat it in almost every area bar flat out protection levels.

  • T80 UE1 is just a T80U basically but iwth worse elevation speeds

  • T90M is nicebut still slow reload, not great mobility etc.

The abrams are some of the best MBTs in game nbar maybe the likes of the 2a7 and 122B

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so its the grind worth to sepv3? i always die in second from 11.7 even tho im f2p at toptier. waht schould be my lineup?

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I wouldn’t really say ircm is a real form of aps but surezzz

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One of the best lights in the HSTVL, as well as the RDF /LT

A selection of M1A2s which are pretty damn potent MBTs,
SPAA they got a decent one in the CLAWS as well.

arguably they are one of the best top tier nations in game.

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what are you saying here?

For my top tier I use an F16A, M1A2 sep, M1A2, M1A1 HC , M1A1 and I think a heli and a casplane

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Here we are, I got rid of the paten for the bradley lol

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No abrams has one, there is however an upgrade kit called ”rosy” that integrates LWS with a smoke launcher

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They should add the M10 Booker and give the HSTV/L 372mm of pen.
Add the M1A2 Sep V3.
Dont make so much top tier prems.

Make it so you need atleast 1 rank 6 vehichle to buy a top tier prem.

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It has a 0.5 second reload why does it Need 372 pen? xD

that I could get behind man

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1 sec reload and 372mm of pen is historical.

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M10 booker will likely be max 11.0, anything higher would make it borderline DOA.

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Yes.
Just hope if they do add it they wont make it a event tank.