Yes, the hunter fga9 who cant do anything but 2 circle dogfights, is subsonic, has only 2 aim-9Es, and has no flares is extremely oppressive. It should be 10.0 so it can be balanced out. Maybe 10.3. It would be a good competitor for the MIG-21SMT of which it might be better than. I agree.
Yes as its way better than the J-7D and NF-5A.
not true nor a weakness. it wins the STR battle.
not an issue as it stays near its top speed
underrated missile ngl. I like them a lot
rocket pod
grow up
called it
Yes the hunter is doing one circle fights I’m very sure, you would know this as you do better than me with it I’m sure. It’s probably a great scissor fight champion and has higher AOA than a MiG-21.
I’m sure you also didn’t just get done telling me that I’m wrong for saying that it can only do 2 circle fights, and then go on to talk about it can do OTHER types of fighting because its SUSTAINED TURN RATE is higher. I’m sure SUSTAINED TURN RATE is relevant for things OTHER than 2 circle fights, right?
Yes, I’m sure it’s not an issue. That toxic MiG-19 definitely can’t catch you and bend you over in a Hunter since it’s too fast. I’m sure supersonic jets struggle a lot.
True. 10Gs is all you need for a missile as well as 1km of range in rear aspect. Anymore than that is a waste.
I’m sure this solves all your issues and has no downsides to speak of.
MiG-15bis ISh (if you own it)

It gets the better Klimov VK-1 engine as the MiG-15bis, but at the same BR as the standard MiG-15 at 8.0.
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Su-11 by far, it’s basically cheating to be playing this jet. They forgot to give air resistance to this plane because you never lose any energy, which means you can make everyone stall easily.
However because you need to use your energy and the guns have no velocity it can be difficult for new players to abuse it. That’s also why it sits at a hilariously low battle rating. It’s clearly pay to win, but it’s at a battle rating gaijin forgot about.
worse drag than 15bis but still much closer to 15bis performance than standard 15
No, nothing to do with that. Drag is normal. It’s just undertiered relative to its peers. It has MiG-15bis thrust between the two engines.
Oh damn, it’s just slow to accelerate and has an average top speed. You would not suspect the engines being that good.
? It accelerates very well for a 7.3 and has a good top speed. The accel in specific is VERY good for that BR
Huh? I remember being in the middle of the pack, if not towards the back, when starting the match. It was a year ago I played so I could be misremembering.
No
Yes
Really surprised an adult human being doesn’t know the answers to those - go figure!
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hunters are bloody brilliant what on earth do you mean no?
I was not talking about anything other than the FGA.9. You’re asserting that the FGA.9 belongs at 9.7 or even higher. It’s laughable. It does not have advantages at that BR.
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Looks like I’m wrong, statshark gives it a very good acceleration for it’s BR. Welp, guess it’s even better than I thought.
Not everyone is as good as you ace.
im not even that great of a pilot and i do very well in hunters. whenever i squad up with @Nostalgistic i get humbled very fast, that dudes cracked.
my F6 still looks awful from when i was new and from old crap SRAAM but im positive in the FGA9 from air battles. even managed a K/D of 1.8 in the AV-8a despite the horrendous issues harriers have (having 240 flares to spam is sometimes not enough in that lump of junk) i wholeheartedly think for the sake of balance they should be higher
See my previous response - by all means check out my performance in Hunters!
? Player skill shouldnt be the Br definer if thats what you mean. im just using my mediocre skill as proof that hunters are busted
That is very humble of you - but I contrast my own skill, which would appear to be significantly worse than yours, as being just as much evidence that they are not!
Hunters are very capable subsonic fighters, and I am very fond of them. However, I think they are balanced at their current BR placement. They are intended to be contemporaries of the F-86F Sabre and MiG-17, sitting one or two BR steps above them, depending on the variant of Hunter. For that reason, I do not have an issue with the Hunters as they are.
To answer the topic’s question, I would place the F-86F-2 Sabre first, followed by the F-86F Sabre second. The F-86F-2 is a very capable and fantastic Sabre variant and a well-rounded subsonic aircraft overall, like other Sabres.