War Thunder Survey: What do People Enjoy About the Game, And What Don't They?

Good survey.

Would say the question about grind, changes from gamemode to gamemode

Air is fine
Bluewater is a little slow but fine
Coastal is pretty poor
Ground sucks (helis are directly adjacent to ground so suck too)

But my overall opinion of WT at the moment is that the Devs need to focus more on what we have rather than just plastering over all the old issue with new premiums and C&Ps.

Many older vehicles are barely playable due to compression and/or bugs and the gamemodes, and it is all of them, have become incredibly stale

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In my honest opinion:

Game modes have become stale, especially Air RB. The addition of nuclear escalation was fun for a while. But the base game is essentially TDM whatever you play.
Adding RB EC has been a long requested feature, yet gajin seems to ignore it.
Other new game modes would be good too.

Regarding balancing;

  • compression is still way too big, especially with all the top tier vehicles being added. There are some major problems that need addressing.

  • certain mechanics need some tweaks ESPECIALLY VOLUMETRIC. While the core idea is good, the situations under the current implementation of it can be so awful that there it really ruins the game.

  • the devs seem to have a serious case of Russian bias, in terms of bug-reporting (stinger vs Igla to name an example, or the M735 that’s been broken for years). The guidelines and accepting of bug reports should be fair to both Nato vehicles and eastern bloc.

  • while I don’t mind the balancing system of BRs, the maximum spread should be lowered to 0.7 in my opinion. This would create a lot more options to balance vehicles, as the maximum difference in potential would be smaller.

  • bombers: we’ve all seen the current bomber damage models, they are weak as hell. The Gunners are generally ineffective unless you have cannon and good coverage. The main problem (especially in Air RB), is that there is no real point to them. Their objectives do essentially nothing in most games, they are easily killed (or will spend the entire game running away). Leading to a lot of frustration to both bomber players and fighter pilots. But the only way they become viable, is if they have a way to be usefull. The current Air RB maps are too small for them (not enough time to climb or flank). The objectives do nothing, and it’s either be killed quick or run away for 20 minutes after dropping bombs (landing is essentially impossible).
    Having Air RB here would give them a game mode that allows their slow gameplay to actually matter, as respawning is an option. Making a death less detrimental to the team.

Grind and economy:

  • simply said, the grind is too long. If you want to get one or two tech trees up, it’s doable. But if you want to diversify and try to get some modern vehicles in different nation. So you have some serious grinding to do, even with premium vehicles.

  • PREMIUM vehicles and tech trees.
    I don’t mind a copy paste premium here/there. I’ll say that up front. I own and enjoy a few (such as the M18 black cat, T34 partisan etc). Overall it’s a relatively non-intrusive way of adding new vehicles to the game that support it’s development and I’m okay with that. I prefer it over locking something unique/OP away behind a premium paywall (T29, T58 as examples).

Where gajin is going wrong now, is that we get both extremely expensive copy paste in several tech trees. (Latest Sentai maiden packs, were vehicles already present as premiums). They could have just sold the skins as a pack, combined with the existing vehicles.

The amount of premiums especially is outrageous right now, it feels as if most vehicles added to the tech tree aren’t new but just variants of vehicles already present. Meanwhile there’s a ton of new premiums that don’t add anything either, but are meant to fill gaps in the premium availability. Meanwhile, such gaps exist within the standard tech tree as well. But they’d rather throw a new line of copy paste against it, than anything unique.

I just wanna take a look at France as an example:
Recent updates added: the Benelux line (ground vehicles are all copy paste, with 3 leopards at top tier (only change is the skin and a machine gun compared to the Germans).
They got the EBRC Jaguar, SAMPT SPAA and not much else noteworthy.
The EBRC Jaguar, was a good addition. Similar to vehicles in other nations, but uniquely french. The SPAA was required, is unique (not great but unique) and a complete copy paste lineup of Benelux vehicles from low tier to top tier. Which they did not need. The Benelux tanks should have been replaced with unique French vehicles UNLESS THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. Why add the M44/M55 instead of a tech tree version of the old Lorraine 155 Mle 50? (Lorraine 155 Mle 51 is right there!). Plenty of those examples are available for other nations (obviously for some minors nations copy paste is harder to avoid, france is definitely not one of them though).

I’ll leave it at that for now.
But the copy paste culture of gajin, combined with the need to make a ton of premiums, while the matchmaking, maps and game modes are becoming stale. Is not good for the game.
The bug reporting and consistent Russian bias in those regards aren’t good for the game either.
The current matchmaking system needs improvement for. Balance reasons. Try flying a standard F16A; have fun again the SU30MKK.

Hm.
Interesting to see this type of a post got past the censorship system, especially with the poll results as they are.
Gonna be an interesting one to look and ( excuse the cynical attitude) laugh at, knowing how well the devs respond to feedback.

@dovah4
Your post is claiming that criticizing Gaijin is shilling for them.
Oh well, I’ll keep critiquing what is real regardless.

Two way datalink isn’t a feature of War Thunder at this time. I’ve been lobbying for its addition for over a year.
Not sure how bringing up a feature that isn’t present is relevant to your points.

X-Ray is not indicative of damage models. It’d be nice if we had a damage-model only x-ray to view.

That specific F-14 would indeed come tot he game with that missile if added to the game if Gaijin wanted to code the missile.

I cannot get Leopard 2A5NL, 2A6NL, CV 9035NL in other tech trees.
I can only get the Leopard 2A4s in other tech trees.

Lorraine 155 Mle 50 is already in the French tech tree.

Nothing is added instead of anything else.

There are good critiques in your post of course, & I love the perspectives you bring.

None of those vehicles are meaningfully different from their counterparts in the German and Swedish trees

The 2a5nl doesn’t even have a line up, and none were necessary given that France has 100’s of missing designs, many of which fill the same or similar roles

but the MLE 50 is a event vehicle, the MLE 51 would give France a unique researchabel case mate 155mm spg instead of another copy pasted M44

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DUDE It’s a module.
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You can keep making excuses all you want.

But how can it come to the game if there’s no photos of Two-way datalink? :(

The radio bind will finally have a real use other than being spammed for memes.
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This is the bit that annoys me. I dont mind a C&P addition, especially a C&P Sub-TT addition, if it truly is the only possible option. But when its done for the sake of convenience, its just frustrating. We have just seen it with Britain.

Way too much effort to fix the Challenger 2s or add a proper Challenger 3. So instead. C&P Abrams

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It’s very frustrating because the BeNeLux tree is a double doozy.

In It’s Current state, BeNeLux offers very little to France:

  1. It has one (1) vehicle that offers a capability it can’t domestically provide, the AH-64E; and

  2. it has three (3) Unique domestic designs vehicles, each of which are low tier fokker planes. While nice (the best part of the tree TBH), it’s not like French or French joint projects aren’t missing in the low tier prop window.

That’s it. Everything else doesn’t actually provide something new or meaningful to France. The Leopard 1a5BE could easily be an AMX-30C2, the Leopard 2a4 could be a EPC series proto-Leclerc, the CV9035NL could be Warrior Toutatis or VAB CTA40, etc

Even if the Copy-Paste issue was addressed, BeNeLux offers very little to France as a majority of BeNeLux domestic designs are light tanks and armored cars, and France is missing dozens upon dozens of it’s own designs in that class.

Even things like Leopard 1BE 3105 actually doesn’t give France somethin that it couldn’t get prior to the BeNeLux tree being added (105mm autoloading stabilized tank) as France has had the SK-105A2 since 2021. The Modernization of it, the SK-105A3, is a 105mm autoloading stabilized tank.