lmao even
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Yea, as soon as I seen this thread I knew it was going to be loaded and guided questions, and it was obvious from the first question.
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2 answers against, 2 in favor
All written with a subjective approach. Does not seem loaded to me
Most people responding to that poll feel there is an issue on balance at top tier, which let’s be honest, is not very surprising…
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Actually a pretty well written post and the poll(s) are not leading at all,
especially compared to most we get in here . . … lol.
Some of the replies have gotten off track and have not been all that helpful.
But . . . it started off very well and I am glad to see it has been left open
for this long and has been getting a good amount of response . . .
this is how feedback and player input should work really . . .
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It’s all about the premise. The murmurings I’ve been seeing with content creators ‘returning’ as they do for these patches after long hiatuses it’s all fixated on making an issue out to be there.
Can they like show the names of all the people that saw this statement as “satisfactory” to be released to the public? (Except Stona since it is just a messenger)
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^^ Case in point…
It’s almost like there’s an issue that caused a lot of them to leave in the first place.
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If you’d been watching them for long enough, there was a myriad of issues… Almost as if it was a pick-an-issue wheel spin… Not to mention their chats would add anything and everything into the mix.
It even goes so far back that it’s the old War Thunder Player Council where back then I said it was just a popularity contest, and in the end they all got snotty about not being able to force changes they wanted upon the devs rather than advising and trying to raise issues correctly.
Much like every post about ‘issues’ on the forum here, they’re all hyper critical and very fixated on blame and making out that people will leave unless things are done.
You can’t do that… You can be critical, you can demonstrate issues and pass on solutions, but trying to make it dramatic and seriously overplay the problem, makes it a problem.
I don’t entirely understand what your saying it feels like broken English even if it’s technically correct so I’m gonna answer what i think your saying. I’m sorry if its wrong.
When players use the reporting system to report bugs and get official posts calling them liars (Abrams armor, & Stingers) or have accepted bug reports get completely contradicted. (Abrams Fuel bulkheads) Where is there to go but to begin shouting into the wind?
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It’s not broken English, and is completely understandable.
They often do this without providing ANY of the required information.
They often get dogpiled with the ‘Everyone says this is broken an d they all report it!’ ‘why should I’ ‘FIX IT YOU STUPID DEVS’ and all the rest…
They report it correctly, and follow the methods and procedures to get it reviewed.
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The Abrams bulkhead is an accepted and approved report that gaijin ignored. The stingers have literal documented proof that gaijin said nu-uhh to because their math that isn’t applicable to a completely different family of missiles and was and is contradicted by the weapons real sources said the Igla couldn’t do it.
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Then you follow the procedure.
The trouble you may also be facing is the documentation you are providing may not be available or applicable to what you are saying.
The situation that you’re trying to evoke is commonly what happens when the content creators get out there with a video, and everyone comes in with their thirdhand ‘knowledge’ and scream into the forums, like it was the wind, and then get all cut up because they got shut down.
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The Abrams bug repot was following the procedure and then having them ignore it anyway. and the Stinger one was them following it and gaijin using documents from a completely different program and country to disprove something. (They would never accept this from a community report.)
Both reports followed proper procedures one was accepted and both were completely ignored contradictory to available evidence.
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You escalate it in the manner provided in the who to contact thread.
and get ignored for years.
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You won’t if you follow the escalation order and push for it to be recognised and fixed.
Things like the “escalation order” only work if it’s a path to getting a bug fixed. Gaijin has time and time again proved that they do not actually care about it.
You can only expect people to follow rules and procedures if you yourself do. Gaijin doesn’t so the community finds other ways.
It breeds discontent and encourages people to go around the rules when you blatantly ignore them.
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It is a path to get it fixed, hence the escalation process.
Don’t excuse the ignoring of that path to play the old ‘Everybody reported it, Gaijin ignored it’ fallback for anything, much as what I’ve been pointing at.
It’s not a path though. If you follow the procedure and gaijin ignores it it’s not a path to get fixed. bugs sitting for 5+ years when the path is followed properly makes it not a viable path.
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