War Thunder Survey: What do People Enjoy About the Game, And What Don't They?

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“As for premiums, it’s undeniable that surges of those come, after all, Gaijin is a company and it has to make it’s money somehow, and if you ask me, I’d rather have copy-paste premiums rather than original vehicles locked behind a paywall. Keep in mind, this isn’t a simple issue for anyone to solve, and currently they’re kind of walking the line between outrage of one group and another”. The problem with this is that they make the copy-paste premiums and the “original” vehicles behind a paywall or an event that is either not fun to play and doesn’t ahve variety due to the fact that each individual game is identical, particularly for ARB.

“Naval as a whole I feel will be the next line of focus for development as it has been picking up after the aiming redo, and I feel it shall do so even more after the aforementioned vertical plateau of the air tech trees. This will naturally include submarines at one point or another and they might finally figure out how to make shooting into eachother’s spawns on every naval map be impractical, the straightforward answer to that question would be just to either make the map such a scale that the guns are simply out of range or to add gigantic obstacles so that the ballistic trajectory of the shells simply cannot surpass them.” As for this, making the maps huge would just be a pain in the butt to be honest, it already takes 8 minutes to get to an objective on certain maps. Making huge “insurmountable” obstacles would be the way to go i8n my oppinion.

“As for your point about the bomber spawns and the lack of radar-guided defensive armament, this naturally goes hand-in-hand with the vertical plateau, it’s an inevitability and only a question of when this is implemented and when they’ll make sure the F-117 gets it’s bomber airspawn.” This reminds me that there needs to be alot more variety in the terain for ARB matches at high tier, Rocky pillars is a great map for example, but Volcano Valley, other than the volcanos have 0 cover, it’s just flat. We NEED maps with more pillars, more tight spaces to maneuver, more ways to dodge missiles/make them crash into terrain. Having the PO-2 halloween racing map in top tier would be SUPER COOL. And for the hardcore psychopaths, in sim it would hilarious.

“Regarding copy-paste vehicles I can’t say banning them is the best way to go about it since Gaijin also uses them to fill holes in tech trees, which makes the trees more playable so we can’t discount that they’re a pragmatic solution to a niche that can’t be easily filled. What my solution to this be is keeping the copy-paste vehicles in BUT once the variant of the vehicle is researched in one tree, it shall become discounted in the others in terms of sl, rp and modules under the condition that it has been spaded in the other tech tree, which I feel is completely fair in that circumstance.” Great point, that I align with, filling in spots for tech trees is important along with making the “cross compatibility” of research for those vehicles.

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I would be so down if the war thunder group chat system was linked to discord.

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Would have to be, indeed :/

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Some of the originals will end up behind a paywall inevitably, but it’s better if less of them did so and in their place you could have just another very slightly different variant of the same vehicle in the tech tree which is the main reason why I’m not against copy-paste premiums, as their usefulness as a premium overshadows their usefulness as a tech tree pure-copy paste.

The terrain in ARB is a little more complex thing to tackle, as you may know, on earth we only have so many places with unique terrain like on the rocky pillars map, and chances are that it won’t be very high in altitude to impede FOX-3 and 1s. What I would support for top tier maps nowadays, since people will hunt you down with a top-down ARH anyway if you do dive into a valley, is to augment them with the upcoming electronic warfare features that will inevitably follow the ARHs we’re getting now, that will surely help I think, as well as improved weather and effects, which may especially interfere with older radars.

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At least US and Israel does have a2g supersonic missiles

  • Popeye/AGM-142
  • Popeye Lite/AGM-142 Have lite
  • ROCKS
  • Air Lora
  • Rampage
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Damn, are we at 3500 already??

Anyway, great post, I really hope we get at least some of the ideas you mentioned. Especially new/improved gamemodes are desperately needed.

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Wait- If you mean what I think you mean, that could actually be really cool!

Could be cool if they made a premium version of one tank from each side that was pretty much just a skin like we have with the Cobra King. Would be a good way for people to get premiums naturally, but it would take away from value of existing premiums (arguable not a bad thing when they sell for £80)

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And I hope they get at least one of these, I’m putting my money on the Popeyes since the SPICEs use a similar seeker and will cover both Israel and the US at the same time (I’m not familiar with the rest of the listed munitions).

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The rest are israeli made munitions (except the agm88J that slipped bc its a anti radiation missile, so I deleted it).

ROCKS (Crystal Maze 2) and Rampage could go to the Indian subtree (UK) tho. And Popeye also going to Australia’s F-111.

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I like to think that it’s a logical inevitability, where else would they pour all their resources if not in the improvement of Game modes and whatever else if there is a ceiling for tech (already happening with Nuclear Thunder and the aforementioned ,Aerial Warfare" mode they’ve been cooking God knows air rb needs it). I also like to think that Infantry mode may also evolve into something even more interesting than a simple FPS with tanks, kamikaze drones and helicopters as it is right now.

I also do sincerely hope that we get the smaller details like headlights, horns and the turning of nosewheels on aircraft (like they have on the front set of landing gears on the B-52H) added along the way, it’s stuff like that would be disproportionately appreciated in relation to their overall value in practice I predict.

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Kv8 an issue? A slow tank with an awful fun thats worse than the Churchill? The flamethrowerr is only really usable against the m10 spam which is far worse

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And regarding other opinions, I’d also like to reinforce the efforts of those that want a bomber revamp, buff and rebalance in their further additions and I’d like to encourage the developers to follow through with the thoughts on the same shared by BVVD given in the interview last year, hopefully to be fulfilled this year, a large part of which electronic warfare will play part of for modern additions, and the proper implementation of radar guided defensive armaments for certain bombers in and not yet in the game as a small part in the larger effort to revamp the air modes.

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I really hope you’re right, but I’m not so sure. Gaijin has shown unpresidented resilience when it comes to doing what the community asks of them. I can very easily see them just not doing anything about as there’s no true need, considering there’s no competitor and the current mode is technically playable, and thus “good enough”. Again, I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong.

On your second point, yes, small details that make vehicles actually unique are awesome, and I really hope we get to see more of them in the future!

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I want more ability to historical larp

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Honestly not sure if I’d call it ‘overpowered’, but it is another vehicle on the increasingly long list of overperforming Soviet event vehicles. Mobility is good for the insane amount of armor you get, if you use your armor correctly and know where to hit enemies, there are few things that can stop you.

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The literal worst case scenario is that they vent the resources that they used to make brand new top tier air and ground vehicles into only naval which is still fantastic for the 3 people that play it, heck, maybe even 4 if they do go through and revamp it somehow. I’m basing this on the assumption that the tech trees will inevitably plateau on some top br that they determine and that business must flow and work must be done somehow, which is perpetually true for all businesses that drives this train of thought, if nothing else in terms of improvement of the main game, they could maybe reinforce the servers instead at the end of the day. I’m very confident that there is no other direction but up for QOL or literally anything that has been requested for a while, as to what and in what order is addressed we can get a rough idea of it from the current picture we can get of things going on in the background that have been explicitly revealed or are implied one way or another.

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I don’t mean copy paste exactly, I mean like Slovak national uprising in 1944 - map, historical air battle, helping partisans, etc. And at the end after 60k score in this event, you could get Avia B-534, which is the last biplane, which shot down enemy plane (Hungarian Ju-52). It could be in parallel with other grinding events, but I thing this can be really funny addition, especially with ww2 theme, when there is lack of it in last updates.

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Ok so…

In terms of vehicles added I have a slightly different take to most, but hear me out.

A big issue has been the constant drive for the next new or unique vehicle.

Years ago, we used to get a lot more depth to the vehicles added. Lots of variants showing the progression of the vehicle’s development, keeping our attention for longer with a tech tree folder without forcing you to grind every single variant. This depth in my opinion is one of the best things about War Thunder.

But we have been losing that. Very legitimate backlash against “copy paste” vehicles has spilled over to being directed at useful variant additions. Suddenly, all additions should be entirely new lest they suffer the wrath of the community.

Copy paste BP/event vehicles are not the same as more variants, even if only marginally different from the others already in game.

Additionally, there seems to be a need for all new additions to fill a new niche or fit the meta, or be deemed useless by many in our community. The prime example is StuG IV, which we still haven’t had. There are many StuG IIIs and other armoured SPGs in the German tech tree around the BR it would likely sit - probably somewhere in the range of 3.7 to 4.3. Another option, another historical vehicle to explore, is not a bad thing!

Now we see entire vehicles being represented by only one or two variants, and that to me is really dissapointing.
I’ll use the English Electric Lightning as an example. We have the F.6 in the tech tree and the export derivative of the F.6, the F.53, as a premium. Would adding a lightning F.1A, F.2, F.2A and F.3 be so hard to add? That’s the depth that’s missing.

Even if we look at the vehicles with excellent depth in the game, we see gaps that would be good to see filled. The Spitfire is missing many interesting variants! The clipped wing Mk.V versions are entirely missing, the Mk.ib would be an excellent event vehicle, the Mk.XII is nowhere to be seen. If the Spitfire was added today would we even get half the versions we currently have? I doubt we’d see the trop versions. Don’t get me started on the missing Bf109 variants.

We’ve seen some expansion on some vehicles recently, against the trend, which is excellent. I’ve enjoyed playing all the new Mosquito variants (I’m almost done spading them all!) and all the new Me210s (which are part of the Me410 family really).

More depth please! WT is nowhere near out of vehicles to add. It would help slow the catching up to modern times and running out of completely new more modern types to add, which WT is getting close to.

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With the way they’ve been behaving lately it’s just a matter of time.

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