Even then as well acing multiple vehicles is pretty damn expensive. So even with a good job it seems like its locked behind a paywall.
Add in that those 25 hours of playtime if you have a job aren’t that consistent.
Lets not also forget, higher level vehicles especially ground take substantially longer than 25 hours.
That dudes talking about low BR air RB to space good planes.
Look how many battles ive got in khalid, or CR1 DS they’re still not aced.
It’s not that easy, at all.
What you’ve detailed gives 25 hours, for a low BR prop plane which isn’t a great indicator for
Have you really read it? If so, how is a rank 6 expertable air crew “for a low BR prop plane”?
Low BR prop planes is what RunaDacino illustrated above.
A level 30 air crew is a level 30 air crew in all game modes.
A level 30 air crew is a level 30 air crew in helicopters.
A level 30 air crew is a level 30 air crew in all BR brackets.
A level 30 air crew can expert rank 6 planes.
And that took two afternoons from scratch.
Yes however you still have to expert / ace it on each individual vehicle, then proceed to level it to the 1.4 odd million they tend to ask for.
Ive had over 400 games in some vehicles with them.with expert crews and still no ace crew.
It is an extremely slow process.
You saying just play sim also requires said person to learn sim 😂 which in of itself takes hundreds of hours.
Bashing arcade is also pointless as the RP gains = time played multipliers are substantially worse.
btw disclaimer the game isn’t just air.
Also i
I still had to pay for the last chunk of F5C crew acing which i do pretty well with.
Two whole ass afternoons for one vehicle spamming one mode? I call BS on that sir.
Ive 4 thousand hours in game 😂 yet to see someone ace a vehicle in 2 normal afternoons, unless an afternoon for you is from 12 pm to 12am
I also know folks who play religiously sim and don’t have ace crews with hundreds of hours.
If it was doable in 2 afternoons no one would complain.
I did read it.
Crew experience + Crew Skills + Vehicle modules are all part of the WT game. All can be earned (slowly in 2 of the 3) or bought outright. Buying outright gives an immediate advantage over those who are not buying outright. That is Pay To Win - which is what this thread is about.
But go ahead, ignore some of the important aspects if they do not support your argument.
And you have to learn how to play it. But all this isn’t my issue. My topic was how to to get a crew operational fast, not how to get SL. So lets not move goalposts here.
Fun fact: You can have a free 150 level tank crew that has never seen a tank.
I even listed the times when the screenshots were taken. I didn’t say I only played one vehicle on the crew. But I only played vehicles I could expert. I also showed that one of it got aced. What do you want? A screenshot of the Mig-25 coupon as proof I participated in the event until the end?
I had to laugh.
No ones moved any goalposts chief.
You are saying here operational the posts talking about acing, which takes ridiculous amounts of time and ir GE.
Fun fact you can’t, my max level air crews are infact not level 150 on the tanks, you’d need to max out several vehicles on the one crew and even then it takes ages to get to level 150, I use the same crew per tree for air, or two which are exclusively used one for air and one for farming ground crews.
It still hasn’t had one at level 150.
You realise you can pay for it, as well as your posted screenshots literally only have your word as proof.
Ive got an F5C with an ace crew, and could tell you when i got it.
I’ve done excellent with it.
Still had to pay to get the last parts of the ace crew.
Laugh at what exactly…you’re literally the first person I’ve ever seen say this crap.
No one is acing vehicles in a way which isn’t a slog.
If it was as easy as you’re saying no one would bother complaining bar very specific cabbages.
Imagine if I obliged you to play ASB just to use your planes properly in AAB or ARB.
“Just play arcade/ARB.”
Reason I play ASB:
Arcade is specifically made for furballs with simplified controls. I don’t look down at it, but it’s not what I consider fun or enjoyable. I like my long, 4 minute or longer duels that start at 4 km altitude and descend down to a few hundred meters over the ground (the 109K4 vs P-51D fight is an example of a fun fight)
If I want a line-up that includes:
I need 3 crews for germany alone.
Repeat for Italy:
4 for italy.
Repeat for USA:
5 for USA
Repeat for USSR
4 for USSR
Japan:
4 for Japan.
UK
3 for britain
That’s 23 crews.
I got my USA sorted.
Germany I have my 109 slot sorted, but my Fw 190 suffers in dives when pulling out and in scissors.
My USSR is annoying to play all around
My italy is fine for the G.55 at long last. The c202 is painful. The Re line I tossed a P-47 into as I couldnt be bothered to get a separate strike and Re line going yet.
Arcade also has a huge detriment to reward multipliers
You forgot about Ace crew
You mean by stealing from Paul to pay Peter?
Illusion - as you still had to earn (or pay for) those crew skills in Naval or Air battles.
Please quote what you refer to. I take the trouble too. Otherwise we never understand what the other guy is saying.
When I say that a crew is rank x capable, it means that it can expert vehicles of that rank. To be rank VI capable means the aircrew has to have level 30. I am talking just about the crew, not about the vehicles. And not about if you have SL to expert jets or even buy and crew them. Different issue. Not my problem.
And I am certainly not talking about acing everything.
OK, let me word if this way, if it helps:
“One can have a free 150 level tank crew that has never seen a tank.”
And I know that because I had that. Multiple times.
But I can’t pay for the vehicle RP on the crew screen. 190000 RP equates to 5700 crew XP that I must have earned with this vehicle alone by that time. OK, I could have photoshopped it, right.
Exactly at that sentence:
If bees could fly, no one would complain.
Again, I am not refering to acing (golden star). I got an ace star as a byproduct but that is not what I talk about. I am talking about leveling up a crew.
To compensate, it gives you 3 times as much crew XP per RP.
10 Nations: Israel 6, US 9, all others 8
79 crews.
I only raise the rear gunner number to the largest plane the nation has. (Why more?)
As Israel only has one plane that needs gunners, I only required one crew with gunners for the B-17, but rank 9 may change that.
13 of the 79 air crews are not maxed out yet. The rest is.
I think my method works.
My new chinese crew from december 27th has just reached level 60.5. It won’t be long until it has reached level 73. What do you think will happen to the gained crew skill then?
I know the points you are transferring from other modes aren’t going to the vehicles that earned them, so they will be lagging as you grind. That other mode obviously grinded the hard way, facing better crews, since you would not have had anything to grind and transfer from.
But please tell us how you transfer the module experience - you know, improving a stock vehicle without actually playing it…
Sorry, I don’t understand what you try to say here.
As I actually enjoy playing the game, I earn the modules myself instead of having the battle pass do it for me without playing the stock vehicles.
From where are you transferring the crew skills from the tanks before you resume playing them? Where are you grinding?
My chinese air crew will be level 73 in a few weeks. From then on, it will gain crew skill that it doesn’t need any longer for the maxed out air part of the crew. So I can spend those xp on ground crew skills. No need to even let them know what a tank is. They keep flying for now, that is what they are good at.
They’re still nto level 150 but at all, they’re closer to level 80 when you do that, which is completely irrelevant in the discussion of aced crews as you still need to expert it on said tank first *then either grind a whoppin 1.2 million for a TT tank at rank 7 or an eye watering 2.4 million for a premium.
You’re not covering that mate in 2 afternoons.
Not even the basic 5/5 G/Stamina.
We’re talking 500K RP there for realistic and simulator game modes.
500k RP.
Which, in Air sim using a rank 3 or rank 4 plane (~136% RP modifier) is a full 50 hour grind if F2P and STILL A 25 hour grind IF YOU ARE A PAYING CUSTOMER (premium).
25 hours to get a crew slot to the point where it behaves identically to fellow players flying the same plane.
25 hours to get a crew slot to the point you can use the plane to its full capability (full capability often means no longer thinking about G limits in WW2 props. With just 3/3 and not 5/5, you are still 165000 RP off from 5/5.
165 000 RP at 5000 RP per 15 minutes takes 8 hours on its own
For me to get my Yak-3 on par with my Bf 109 F-4, I need to fly it for 8 more hours WITH PREMIUM. Assuming I always perform perfectly and land and never die, to boot. Dying will potentially increase 8 hours by 20% to 10 hours. Imperfect play (600 rather than 1050 score) will increase it again (92% reward goes down to 85%).
I know the difference 5/5 vs 3/3 makes because I LITERALLY started instant replay recording my dogfights AND recording the G loading I sustain in those dogfights and my Bf 109 F-4 does some utterly ridiculous shenanigans. I am talking about dogfights I WIN and matches I BENEFIT from the crew system and I think it’s ridiculous.
So you are using maxed out air crews to earn skill points and pump up your ground crew skills. Great.
But you know what? Many players can’t do that.
Consider new players. They don’t have the luxury of transferring extra crew points to lower level crew in another mode, because they don’t have those maxed out crews.
And how did you get your maxed Chinese crews in air? There must have been a time when you were grinding, against opponents who did not grind, but just paid for the skills outright.
And then there’s the vehicle modules … which can be bought outright.