VN-17 (Pre-production prototype) - The Modular Brawler

No, then it’s fine, it’s a paper.

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肖俊波,杨国来,李洪强等.某自动炮变射速和新型摩擦阻尼缓冲器参数对后坐力的影响研究[J].南京理工大学学报,2018,42(06):637-641.DOI:10.14177/j.cnki.32-1397n.2018.42.06.001

And another paper shows that it can fire at even more than 1200 rpm, not sure if it’s some kind of extreme test. 1200 is too high for a IFV.

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袁晓冬,高灵清,张海峰.炮管材料的发展现状与趋势[J].材料开发与应用,2017,32(5):98-104

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Do you think the VN-20 uses the same auto cannon? If so this would mean that both these IFV’s are very powerful when it comes to auto cannons

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I’m sure it do use the same cannon. But the type that uses Bakhcha-U(100MM and 30mm) is still zpt-99. Anyway, gaijin better equip these with Chinese own 30mm tungsten apfsds, not 3ubr11, which should be similar to MK258.

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We still do not have information on the 30mm APFSDS for PLAGF. We do not even know whether PLAGF actually operates any 30mm APFSDS. PLA Navy does have 30mm APFSDS, but it cannot be used on IFVs.

I doubt theyd go the lenght developing a 30mm and not developing an atleast tungsten apfsds along side

Also… you think you could use the vn 20 to try and get a better reverse speed for the vt4?

is this a naval round?
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I’m pretty sure that DTC04-30 is an APDS. This pic should be someone putting together a naval 30mm APFSDS projectile and a ground 30mm cartridge case.


What about this one?

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DTC-04 is used by chinese army

I am still sure that DTC10-30 is an APDS as well, so this one might be the same trick.
The major improvement of DTC10-30 is that it uses fragile penetrators. Basically it means much more fragments can be produced after piercing to genenrate better after-effect.

DTC-04-30 is indeed the name of a shell used by chinese army but it should be an APDS.

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This is definitely an APFSDS so yeah I guess this could be used as evidence

It is not a real APFSDS. The left one in the pic is a montage of two different shells. Likely putting together the shell case body of DTC10-30 FAPDS and the projectile of a naval DEC115 APFSDS.

While I too would love to find information on the Chinese Army’s use of the 30mm APFSDS, the DTC041A-30 is probably the best ammo available for this gun. It’s a better armor-piercing round than the DTC10-30 and DTC04-30, but it’s generally considered to be an APDS as well. there are many rumors that the PLA has developed an APFSDS superior to the 3UBR11 and that it’s already in service, but it’s never been exposed in the media.

However, for vehicles that will not be equipped with APFSDS, DTC041A-30 will be a better ammo than 3UBR8 and DTC10-30.
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So I guess we can expect to see the stand in APFSDS that we already have on the QN stay in game for now

This can be a new missile, HJ-12 is a small missile for personal use, the box is much larger. VN-20 uses BlueArrow-5 F&F missiles, VN-17 can also be.

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My VN-20 suggestion was approved today, so hopefully one do these two is passed to devs sooner than later

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I can’t see it in Suggestion-dev.