manual control of a atgm for ir guided munition are not in game, it will hit random spot.
just think for a sec
cant get exact number if the tank armor is classified.
every tank got them, if we got by facts, russia is the only country that had a turret basket + autoloader since many years now.
not so smart to think that a 1100mm era / armor canot stop a 900mm pen spikes. you just trolling lmao
GOOD JOB, now you know the difference btw a 5kg tnt and a 19.2 kg tnt.
ah yes the perfect excuse like every map is a flat map.
something called cover when you do cas, see pantsir ? go behinde a mountain.
think, think for a sec.
they are at a lower br for this reason, and they also got a buff who now have 12 missile rather then 8
you never played a T tank and you complain comes from guesses, all maps have differente advantage, nato doesnt have that problem since they dont need maps to get a good depression. they have it all the time. they dont care about the maps.
yet again a stupid argument
lying, literlly lying.
70% of blue side nato have a 4 / 5 / 6 sec reload with the 650mm round.
shut up
crying ? russian doesnt get heat round at these br. nato does.
skill issue 100%
ok and ? atgm are never used, proxy he are also present in other nato tanks.
some tank have stuff, some other doesnt. you cant add this because they dont exist irl.
irst mean a higher br, sweden player dont want half of the light tank goes up in br.
also why in the hell you want a irst when you have the same ifv with a radar mounted. and more ammo.
god damn
manual control of a atgm for ir guided munition are not in game, it will hit random spot. just think for a sec
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8nP8cqhRUjI
As shown here, Spike does hit random spots /s
cant get exact number if the tank armor is classified.
Nothing is “classified” concerning russian MBTs, but everything is “classified” concerning NATO MBTs. How convenient (cope).
every tank got them, if we got by facts, russia is the only country that had a turret basket + autoloader since many years now.
Russian MBTs has turret basket now ? We learn things everyday
not so smart to think that a 1100mm era / armor canot stop a 900mm pen spikes. you just trolling lmao
Tandem charge is a type of military charge designed to puncture armored vehicles protected by explosive reactive armor.
Never heard of tandem charge missiles ? They’re actually made to pen that kind of era. It says it right there, top left of your second screenshot mate.
GOOD JOB, now you know the difference btw a 5kg tnt and a 19.2 kg tnt.
Sure, a 5kg tnt missile can’t destroy a russian MBT with a singular top approach hit.
Spoiler
They actually don’t, because AH-64E AGMs top approach is broken compared to LMURs, that’s the whole point of the sentence my man.
ah yes the perfect excuse like every map is a flat map.
something called cover when you do cas, see pantsir ? go behinde a mountain.
Irrelevant, Pantsir is still the best SACLOS SPAA out there, compared to others. Your point being ?
think, think for a sec.
they are at a lower br for this reason, and they also got a buff who now have 12 missile rather then 8
12.7 not enough, gotta be 12.3/12.0. Currently still waiting for the “buff”.
you never played a T tank and you complain comes from guesses, all maps have differente advantage, nato doesnt have that problem since they dont need maps to get a good depression. they have it all the time. they dont care about the maps.
yet again a stupid argument
Ad hominem now huh ? Good argument there, for sure.
lying, literlly lying.
70% of blue side nato have a 4 / 5 / 6 sec reload with the 650mm round.
shut up
T-80u fighting MSC, 6sec reload each ? T80 bvm fighting Leos, 6 sec reload each ? Your point being ?
Starting to loose your temper and insult ? Good one
crying ? russian doesnt get heat round at these br. nato does.
skill issue 100%
T-32 and other heavies at that BR get heat rounds ? Please show me ??
ok and ? atgm are never used, proxy he are also present in other nato tanks.
some tank have stuff, some other doesnt. you cant add this because they dont exist irl.
Leos/Abrams/Leclercs don’t have irst, though they do have it irl
Leclercs don’t have proxy he ingame, though they do have it irl, and that’s why it’s added up to the game next update (after years)
Double standard here ? We give everything in the first place to russian vehicles, then we give them to NATO years after that ? Maybe we’ll wait additionnal years for the real NATO armors to be added ?
irst mean a higher br, sweden player dont want half of the light tank goes up in br.
Selective realism, they do have irst irl but not added ingame ? You know what sweedish players want or don’t want know ?
also why in the hell you want a irst when you have the same ifv with a radar mounted. and more ammo.
Maybe to get multiple of them in the lineup ? And actually get a useable laser guided atgm IFV (strf 9040 BILL) instead of the crappy spike one ?
Not a great defense here, not a great defense overall throughout your entire post as a mater of fact, ngl pal.
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wheeled, 3 person crew and no STAB.
It actually has a reload unlike many of the light tank autocannons.
8.0 is a reach.
such as
I mean if you’re asking for my personal favourite
Said APCBC actually has more pen than the ZTS63s APFSDS btw
“M392A3 is better than M728” has crept into this thread somewhere I just can’t be bothered to find it
you ever interacted with a chinese playerbase in any game?
explains a fair bit.
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im grinding america right now. I know… 60% of my matches im carrying harder than when im playing britain. Facing your home trees stuff is scary, you know what they can do and what it does to your tank.
Very aware of that. Even BR defining tanks like tigers and hellcats cant even push a K/D of 1 from it
thats just flanker, he’s like that
there’s so many layers to how awful that take is
instead of picking something like the ZTZ96 or AFT09 he picks two of the most rancid vehicles in the Chinese tree
Indeed it did! How could you tell? :-)
It’s well documented across the entire 1.0-13.0 BR range that they are worse than US or RU players, let alone minor nation ones.
9.0 is better
I’d push this one up to 9.0 as well
No objections I dont know the vehicle
Just remove APDS
Agree with this
Would put it at 8.7 personally
Remove APDS from them, keep AP but bump them all to 9.0, along with a raise for all radar SPAA to 8.0 minimum
Close to unlocking it but my friends say they are great tanks. I feel like its fine at 8.0
Should be 10.0 minimum.
Meh fine at 7.7 pretty rubbish vehicle
T58 should go to 9.3,
M60 Rise to 9.0,
BMPT to 13.7
M4A3E2 to 5.3, M4A3E2 (76) w to 6.0
M3 Lee/Grant to 3.0
Tiger H1 to 6.0, E to 6.3
Tiger ii H to 7.0 (10.5 to 7.3)
Panther A/G to 5.7
Panzer IV H to 4.3, J to 4.0, G to 3.7
IS-4M to 8.3
T-54 1947 to 8.0
ZSU-57 to 8.7
For aircraft
F-100 needs to be 10.0
Sea Vixen back down to 8.7, if you cant dodge 12g missiles thats a skill issue
F-86K to 8.7
RE. 2005 (and VDM) to 6.3
Spitfire Mk 24 to 7.0
MiG-15 Bis to 9.0
A-4B to 8.3
A-4E to 9.0
F-106A to 9.0
F-14A IRIAF to 12.7
F/A-18C Early remain at 12.7 but give it 9Ms
F-15A to 13.0
F-5C to 11.0
I could name so many more
I mean for low tier the SAV is like the T58 or BMPT
I dont believe in 8.7 with APDS. Those shots are barely enough at 8.3
Of course the 3BM25 and no armor is great competitor to M774 and thermals + armor…
Tho looking at britain and japan, it should really go 8.7 as neither Type 74C nor Vickers MK3 are really competitors to it.
what a joke, one-way stab with trashy APFSDS that is even worse than those APDS on TURM?
No movement for them, they are alright
Its not? Its basically Leopard 1a1 but with worse everything except loading time.
yeah thats a bit overkill for 8.0
SPAA should be tank killers as killing tanks is main part of the game, so quit crying over it. Only thing devs should do is make them not eat shots like they arent even there (hello xm246, no US bias here found surely).
Oh no but it has stab, lrf, HEAT and ATGM!!! and small proportions!
Totally op for 8.0!!!1111!
joke. Has no armor against DM33 105 and DM23 120, has long reload and no good sights except penetration of the cannon.
Try that with Type 74C and MBT-70…
Why?
Thats some hot takes there xD
A lot of it is just requiring decompression, hence the “a lot more”
The german apds does a great job even at 9.0, u can see that with the sgock leo 1a1
Wich tank does have thermals and m774 at 8.7? If u are talking about the m60 Rise, it just have bad placed ERA that just work for heat and m774 but no thermals
Stabilized gun, 100mm gun, apfsds, .50 cal, low profile, if u play in a m46 (7.0) for sure u will be using 99% pf the times the apcbc so if u encounter the type69 u are just food tbh
Idk idk, i use the xm800t at top tier and it does a great work,anyway, top tier would be so much, maybe just 9.0 would be nice because there are more tanks with a .50 cal or auxiliary 20mm there
Leo 1a1 doesnt have lrf, perharps it does hace better ammo, i really preffer the lrf it does give u real advantage for large maps like maginot line
Would be nice at 8.3
AAA’s should be plane killers not tank killers, Za-35 is an abuse, also the xm246, the gepard too, and just remember the falcon,they should just remove the aphe and the apds since autocannon damage is broken in this game, just give them HE so they can still pen light tanks and destroy tracks but no more than that, i dont see any nation using an AAA as an ifv, i just remember that m163 and one zsu23 were used for support the infantry
The problem is that it doesnt have lrf,there is people asking for the sheridan that does have the lrf, but they dont ad it, u just have a long reload heat (sometimes i even preffer to use the HE tbh) and an atgm that sometimes does a great damage or just does nothing
It does have armour, they just can pen your LFP and your driver port, talking about other tanks like the mbt70/kpz70 they just can pen the LFP due to the massive ammo that suffers a lot of the volumetric (thats why i always carry some heats,just for t72’s) so that means t72 for real does hace armour, u can see that also if u get a down tier and u just gotta fight apds or low pen apfsds
Here u have the difference in power between an abrams vs t72 and an mbt70 vs a t72
Lrf, first 2 shots 3.5s reload, then 5s reload, HE-VT, great 155mm gun and it can fight 6.7 tanks in a large map where is a total beast
(Please, I almost forgot, look at how many meters I set the simulation distance for the t72 shot to the mbt70 xD)
Also Harrier Gr.7 needs to go to 11.7
As i suspected - you’ve never used the Type 69, so you have no idea. This is why these topics are a joke.