such as
I mean if you’re asking for my personal favourite
Said APCBC actually has more pen than the ZTS63s APFSDS btw
“M392A3 is better than M728” has crept into this thread somewhere I just can’t be bothered to find it
you ever interacted with a chinese playerbase in any game?
explains a fair bit.
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im grinding america right now. I know… 60% of my matches im carrying harder than when im playing britain. Facing your home trees stuff is scary, you know what they can do and what it does to your tank.
Very aware of that. Even BR defining tanks like tigers and hellcats cant even push a K/D of 1 from it
thats just flanker, he’s like that
there’s so many layers to how awful that take is
instead of picking something like the ZTZ96 or AFT09 he picks two of the most rancid vehicles in the Chinese tree
Indeed it did! How could you tell? :-)
It’s well documented across the entire 1.0-13.0 BR range that they are worse than US or RU players, let alone minor nation ones.
9.0 is better
I’d push this one up to 9.0 as well
No objections I dont know the vehicle
Just remove APDS
Agree with this
Would put it at 8.7 personally
Remove APDS from them, keep AP but bump them all to 9.0, along with a raise for all radar SPAA to 8.0 minimum
Close to unlocking it but my friends say they are great tanks. I feel like its fine at 8.0
Should be 10.0 minimum.
Meh fine at 7.7 pretty rubbish vehicle
T58 should go to 9.3,
M60 Rise to 9.0,
BMPT to 13.7
M4A3E2 to 5.3, M4A3E2 (76) w to 6.0
M3 Lee/Grant to 3.0
Tiger H1 to 6.0, E to 6.3
Tiger ii H to 7.0 (10.5 to 7.3)
Panther A/G to 5.7
Panzer IV H to 4.3, J to 4.0, G to 3.7
IS-4M to 8.3
T-54 1947 to 8.0
ZSU-57 to 8.7
For aircraft
F-100 needs to be 10.0
Sea Vixen back down to 8.7, if you cant dodge 12g missiles thats a skill issue
F-86K to 8.7
RE. 2005 (and VDM) to 6.3
Spitfire Mk 24 to 7.0
MiG-15 Bis to 9.0
A-4B to 8.3
A-4E to 9.0
F-106A to 9.0
F-14A IRIAF to 12.7
F/A-18C Early remain at 12.7 but give it 9Ms
F-15A to 13.0
F-5C to 11.0
I could name so many more
I mean for low tier the SAV is like the T58 or BMPT
I dont believe in 8.7 with APDS. Those shots are barely enough at 8.3
Of course the 3BM25 and no armor is great competitor to M774 and thermals + armor…
Tho looking at britain and japan, it should really go 8.7 as neither Type 74C nor Vickers MK3 are really competitors to it.
what a joke, one-way stab with trashy APFSDS that is even worse than those APDS on TURM?
No movement for them, they are alright
Its not? Its basically Leopard 1a1 but with worse everything except loading time.
yeah thats a bit overkill for 8.0
SPAA should be tank killers as killing tanks is main part of the game, so quit crying over it. Only thing devs should do is make them not eat shots like they arent even there (hello xm246, no US bias here found surely).
Oh no but it has stab, lrf, HEAT and ATGM!!! and small proportions!
Totally op for 8.0!!!1111!
joke. Has no armor against DM33 105 and DM23 120, has long reload and no good sights except penetration of the cannon.
Try that with Type 74C and MBT-70…
Why?
Thats some hot takes there xD
A lot of it is just requiring decompression, hence the “a lot more”
The german apds does a great job even at 9.0, u can see that with the sgock leo 1a1
Wich tank does have thermals and m774 at 8.7? If u are talking about the m60 Rise, it just have bad placed ERA that just work for heat and m774 but no thermals
Stabilized gun, 100mm gun, apfsds, .50 cal, low profile, if u play in a m46 (7.0) for sure u will be using 99% pf the times the apcbc so if u encounter the type69 u are just food tbh
Idk idk, i use the xm800t at top tier and it does a great work,anyway, top tier would be so much, maybe just 9.0 would be nice because there are more tanks with a .50 cal or auxiliary 20mm there
Leo 1a1 doesnt have lrf, perharps it does hace better ammo, i really preffer the lrf it does give u real advantage for large maps like maginot line
Would be nice at 8.3
AAA’s should be plane killers not tank killers, Za-35 is an abuse, also the xm246, the gepard too, and just remember the falcon,they should just remove the aphe and the apds since autocannon damage is broken in this game, just give them HE so they can still pen light tanks and destroy tracks but no more than that, i dont see any nation using an AAA as an ifv, i just remember that m163 and one zsu23 were used for support the infantry
The problem is that it doesnt have lrf,there is people asking for the sheridan that does have the lrf, but they dont ad it, u just have a long reload heat (sometimes i even preffer to use the HE tbh) and an atgm that sometimes does a great damage or just does nothing
It does have armour, they just can pen your LFP and your driver port, talking about other tanks like the mbt70/kpz70 they just can pen the LFP due to the massive ammo that suffers a lot of the volumetric (thats why i always carry some heats,just for t72’s) so that means t72 for real does hace armour, u can see that also if u get a down tier and u just gotta fight apds or low pen apfsds
Here u have the difference in power between an abrams vs t72 and an mbt70 vs a t72
Lrf, first 2 shots 3.5s reload, then 5s reload, HE-VT, great 155mm gun and it can fight 6.7 tanks in a large map where is a total beast
(Please, I almost forgot, look at how many meters I set the simulation distance for the t72 shot to the mbt70 xD)
Also Harrier Gr.7 needs to go to 11.7
As i suspected - you’ve never used the Type 69, so you have no idea. This is why these topics are a joke.
Being a player who enjoys confronting/knocked them off, T-44-100 is ok at 7.0, especially the fact that it doesn’t have good gun depression from the sides due to the addition of Sideskirt.
It would be better to get The prototype of the T-54 at 7.3, enabling the transition between the T-44-100 and the T-54 in 1947 :
U have great stats with it, so i dont see the problem tbh, and yep, i said i didnt use it, this entire post is just a suggestion, please it would be nice if u read everything,also, it is cool that u have the object 279 and the coelian ^^
My dumb mind read t54 at 7.3 and i almost got a heart attack, then i readed again and i saw prototype xD it would be cool to see it for sure!!
The thing is your opinion of the 69 reads like someone who is reading off a statcard. Yes the Type69 has a dart - it’s trash. Yes the Type69 is low profile, but it has no gun depression, so you often have to expose yourself anyway. Just things you would know when you use it. If it was OP, people would use it more.
Yeah, I face the T-44-100 a lot. I’ve never thought it should be 7.3, tbh.
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