The modern top tier environment, where you at times have to dodge multiple missiles going for you at the same time, leading you to resort to terrain masking or multipathing, paired with the fact that you’re well above Mach 1 majority of the time, makes the current vehicle ban system of “you crash, you bad, enjoy 5 minute ban” seem absolutely ridiculous.
I’m 99% sure Gaijin can come up with a more complex way of handling such situations
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yhea thats a maybe one thing they need to put because is hard to dodge so many players like you and me just try to dodge kissing the floor but not at all, is hard bro
Nah it’s fine the way it is, as if you crash, you’re denying a kill to the enemy, regardless of whether it’s intentional or not.
Try to rely on multipathing less and less, fly a little bit higher and you should start seeing an improvement.
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You must give someone kill credit to not get crew lock.
Also if you crash sfter the match is 9min in you dont get crew lock same with tanks if you J out and RTH after 9 min no crew lock.
Crew Lock is an inconvenience, but I’m honestly surprised they haven’t decided to roll a “no crew lock” perk into Premium Account.
Yes, just fly higher and notch missiles coming from multiple angles at the same time. Totally viable.
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Maybe try not rushing to the center of the map, that way you will reduce the chances of every single aircraft firing at you lol. Pick a side.
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How pray tell does one fly higher and “just dodge bro” when stock you have the sum total of 0 chaff?
Flying the Tornado F.3 late just now, it is not challenging, it is not difficult, it is literally impossible… by far the single worst stock grid I’ve ever experienced… but sure, I’ll just go high where I have even fewer options available.
Nobody is taking about stock aircraft or tactics here so not relevant. Of course you won’t play the same way.
The Tornado F3 Late ain’t even that good when spaded so there’s that.
Son, I am talking about them… so you listen.
I’ve just shot a gaping hole in your non-argument and you do not have a valid counter to what I said. They are relevant whether you acknowledge it or not.
Not relevant, so no, there isn’t “that”.
If multi-pathing isn’t viable, and flying high isn’t possible because it’s suicidal, what then?
Go around… where you can still be easily spotted…
Go where your teammates go and get a bit behind, let your teammates be the bait I guess?
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You came crying at me for an advice I gave to someone else, in a discussion in which we were not talking about stock aircraft. If you’re frustrated I’d suggest you hit the pillow and come back when you’re a little bit older and have some reading comprehension.
Yes, stay back and achieve little to nothing.
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Once again, we ARE talking about stock vehicles…
I introduced them to the conversation because they are relevant to the comment I responded to, you do not have authority to eliminate this line because it doesn’t suit your narrative.
As already stated above by Motorola, if you hang back the battle is decided before you get there. Either you’ve already lost or there is nothing left to accomplish… then inevitably some clown throws a sanctioned wall-hack on you (Blindhunt)… I’ve tried all of the above and nothing works. If I end up in a 14:1 then my own policy is now to simply eject when someone puts a blind hunt on me, I’m not willing to be a free kill when I lack the tools to defend myself.
We aren’t, you are.
Kindly grasp this concept: You do not decide what others may enter into the conversation.
I’ve raised the matter, it my original comment was relevant to that which I responded to. You tried to counter the point I raised, and you failed abysmally. You can either continue to discuss the matter or leave… but you will not tell me what I may or may not discuss.
I don’t use multipath at all, unless there’s no way to get into a notch fast enough. I also don’t crash early enough to get a ban as often as you might be thinking(maybe once every 15-20 matches, but it’s still annoying enough to a point I made a post about it). There’s really no way to improve the situation (in my case) without changing the ban system(for top tier at least).
The “denying a kill” thing is a part of the problem, I think you should receive at least some rewards for a person crashing while trying to defeat your missile, but I’m not really sure on how they could implement that.
They can implement that easily whenever they want, they know who’s being fired at and by whom; this is the only info they need, however, this would improve the economy so either they won’t do it, or they will do it but nerf all the other rewards like they’ve done in the past.
Your argument is that because it’s too much hassle to take the appropriate evasive measures that you can use now when you only have a temporary stock, you want it to ruin the entire gameplay experience and make it okay for the stock to charge into a missile.
Also, even if you make concessions, the fact that you can’t evade because you don’t have chaff in your stock is a chaff issue, and the solution should be to propose that the chaff that should be available in the stock can be used, not to demand MP that doesn’t exist.
And the proposal that should have been requested was, “Since improvements are not progressing because we cannot get kills with chaff or MP, we should strengthen the missile seekers so that we can secure kills.”
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No, that is not my argument.
My argument is that it physically can’t make the appropriate maneuvers and requires countermeasures to balance its abysmal maneuvering capabilities. All compatible aircraft should have chaff/flares by default, but there no point saying that should be suggested since its not like it hasn’t been god knows how many times already… and ignored. Without chaff flying high is simply out of the question, the best you can hope for is kill trade, because you ARE going to be shot down by the first guy that sees you.
With this in mind we’re back to flying low and using terrain masking (if available), because it’s the only option on the table. “Just dodge bro” isn’t a valid response.
Getting out of “temporary stock” is borderline impossible when you can’t survive long enough to fight anyone. The alternative is playing so conservatively that you find yourself in a position that there is no one left to fight… the stock F.3 (late) is just unusable.