Do you are okay with the F-117?
Well yeah, the Tornado F3 modifications are still young. I also have a Phantom FG1 I’d fly, which is it with a worse radar and no 9Ls.
I’ll get around to spading it, just takes time when playing 10 tech trees.
And I’ve always said I never flew the Su-25SM3, that doesn’t mean I can’t know that it’s OP.
All thermal targeting system CAS at the top end is OP, all of it; no exceptions.
When I say the only two times I died to Pantsir was when I was being a drone, and when I was trying to get back into a Leclerc faster, it means after hundreds of Pantsir shots on me, only 2 hit, and the 2 were when I wasn’t playing as jet CAS.
Of course I died to Pantsir in custom battles dozens of times to learn its limits, and I do my best to share that knowledge with people when they ask or seem to be needing CAS advice.
All that changed when Pantsir was added for me is I moved my 14km bombing to 16km… that’s it, that’s the change.
Being high altitude, being fast, the Pantsir’s missile climbs for too long that its maneuverability tanks, and a simple perpendicular aircraft going nearly mach 1 over 8000 meters high [I like 9000] is enough to get its missile to peak its maneuverability and miss.
Just like he thought mekopa in South African heli better than Vikhr lol and said that heli better than KA-52/MI-28NM lol
He rarely touch heli while saying that
And his logic like
AA ability are not matter
Missile speed are not matter
And so on
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I have at least 11 hours in the Rooivalk.
Gaijin gave me a mode without enemy players, and I hate PVP despite being decent at it, so of course I’m going to prioritize enjoying helicopters in the PVE game mode.
The only helicopter I’ve flown recently in ground RB is the A-129 on Iberian Castle where I first spawned it and fragged two enemy tanks with its dumb rockets.
I don’t use SP inefficient vehicles if I can avoid it, which also means I reduced my CAS use in general.
Mokopa is a superior missile though, that is clear.
Both in paper stats and in use.
ah Missing good old quotes from his logic…
R-24R is Skyflash equivalent, R-24R is faster on paper stat but has larger turn radius blah ba blah
Both are same because when you defeat them they are both useless
R-27R is Skyflash equivalent
R-24R = Skyflash(AIM-7E2 with larger fuse proxy, historically better seeker) = R-27R
It really was funnier than ‘Folie à Deux’
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I have hundreds hours in MI-28 NM alone and thousands battles in Apache
And mokopa are same nature as hellfire with a little faster and more range
You really think you can BS me about heli? Really? Hardcore heli main like me?
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Personal skill is a factor that always needs to be removed from analysis of weapons.
M829A2 is the best MBT round, and 3BM60 is in the same class of penetrators as OFL 120 F1.
People can perform identically with both the best and lesser rounds, that doesn’t make them equal, that makes the player consistent.
People can and do perform better with some weapons more than others, sometimes they perform better with inferior weapons cause they’re use to how it handles.
Congrats on being a “hardcore heli main” like myself.
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Reach 1000 battle of all heli you had combined first before considering yourself as that
You like a novice to me
And you knowledge about heli i can see right through that you’re lying
In heli term we are not the same in experience just don’t think like that
@ARK_BOI
Your posts have issues separating your personal performance in helicopters from analysis of weapons.
On top of seemingly looking down on others that are experienced.
An accusation of malice just because I have less time in the day spent on War Thunder…
Ark, I am not trying to do anything other than have a discussion.
We could bounce knowledge and perspectives without accusations, without calling people silly names just cause their 200+ hours of helicopters isn’t your alleged amount.
I don’t look down on people that play Sea Vixen their own way; I expect mutual respect in this regard.
Oh? is that what you think? If that Well you did to yourself really
go ask around the forums that Rooivalk or KA-52 which one is better or make a poll vote and find out shall we?
or do i need to explain why? I think i’ve done that many times and you choose to ignore it
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People are emotional, and War Thunder’s playerbase is rather emotional.
Emotions cloud rational judgement, and you put a bunch of people that THINK Russia’s a god they’re going to vote Ka-52, whether they identify as hating Russian equipment or loving it.
Your posts had a similar issue with that.
A helicopter with 10km range 550 meters per second ripple-fire capable AGMs that penetrate 1350mm of armor with a ~4kg warhead.
The helicopter has gen 2+ thermals and a nice warning suite.
Its BR was 11.3 and was increased along with all other helicopters by 0.3.
If I didn’t mention the speed, penetration, or ripple fire capability you’d think I was talking about Vikhr.
You cannot let emotion cloud your judgement. Just as I cannot let my disgust of Mi-28NM cloud my judgement whenever I speak of that helicopter that’s obviously on-par with Ka-52 despite me disliking it.
I set my emotions aside to make sure I’m coming to an accurate assessment.
I mean that argument kinda falls short when hypothetical vehicles are in the game
Technically the Su-25 and Su-25k have laser guided missiles at 10.0. But they important distinction is that the F-117 gets extremely high magnification thermal optics with auto trackers that make its laser guided bombs point and click free kills that it can casually drop from stealth before flying away, while the Su-25’s laser designator can only aim forward within a limited FOV, it doesn’t have an auto-tracker, and its “optics” are an abstraction of the pilot squinting really hard at the HUD.
Once again a case of the soviets being a bit better in one facet, having the better missiles in this case, but overall having worse most everything else to the point of once again placing America in the King of CAS position.
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welp gets we might aswell give it Aim-54s and- heck why not Faukour 90s because hypothetical vehicles are in the game
KA52 is definitely better, but the Rooivalk is more fun to play and has a much better FM IMO
Well if it’s “only 2 missiles” what’s the problem?
But I’m not advocating either way. I’m just pointing out that we can’t decry factual accuracy when there are vehicles in game that were never fielded or with made up armaments.
If you don’t see how giving a vehicle weapons it didn’t use irl is bad, then go back to WoT
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Your comment makes no sense, your logic says the heavy tank no.6 should be in the German tech tree because it was made in germany with german parts. Thats what you are saying about the skink, that because of the American parts it should be in the American tech tree.
Heavy Tank No.6 should be in the Japanese tech tree, because Japan owned and operated it for however short of a time.
Your wording doesn’t make sense “who is currently operating it” is the same as “owning and operating”. And again, your heavy tank No.6 argument goes against your own point, it was made in germany with german parts, so therefore it should be in the German tech tree right? I don’t know how you managed to confuse your own argument.
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Japan never operated it. It never went to Japan, it never fought in the Pacific. They only bought it, and that was it. However because Germany could not transport it to Japan, it was sent back into German service. In which its proclaimed to have been disabled by French resistance.
Seriously, go do your research. It isn’t rocket science.