USA F18c early "Will" need a buff or a Br change

afaik it’s a gulf war fa 18c, which had none of the upgrades that were present on the later fa18c that the swiss have, altho being fr, the swiss fa18 is pretty much fictional in terms of loadout

yeah if they got rid of the a2g and radar missiles and it only had 9P5 it would be ok

13.0 MM is significantly worse than 12.7 right now, like night and day. Going from mostly 12.0 matches to mostly 13.7/14.0 matches and only thing gained is 2 aim 9m deep in a BVR bracket with only SARH with like ~10km effective range is a gigantic nerf. The only 13.0 planes without fox3 that aren’t hot dogwater are carrying 6+ R27ER.

ik, im just saying “if”

kind of OT but what do you think about the state of the F-15A now? should i just move onto the F-16C or can i really do well in it

Those planes are screwed until decompression. You obviously do fine at BR or in downtiers, but you are just way too outclassed in uptiers which 80% of your matches will be. I would wait for another BR adjustment patch before messing around with them, never know for sure, but they could end up in good spot were the bracket they end up in is favorable like 12.3/12.7s are now.

MM is not fair, and doesn’t care how many uptiers/downtiers you have gotten, population is what dictates matches, and what forms sort of soft brackets in the game. Some mid BRs are healthy enough that +1/-1 match making isn’t common, but up at higher BRs its really awful, premiums pretty much dictate these population differences and the only TT BR that is even close to being on par with premiums is 14.0, which is what drags up 13.0 every single match. The only significant force to pull down 13.0 is 12.7 premiums, as 12.0 can only see 4 of them, and 11.7 mig23 spam is out of range entirely. Only chance for 13.0 is some 12.3/12.7 premiums going on sale/more being added. Currently iir the only 12.3/12.7 premium that has been on sale is the f20.

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yeah i feel like the growing amount of supersonic fox 3 carriers at the BR + F-2 with its AESA doesnt help either

I mean it should definitely get 9Ms if the 18C(early) moves to 13.0.

Currently it’s too strong to remain at 12.7 but too bad to move to 13.0.

Yo stop nerfing my fav plane,its great where it is rn. Its busted,dont need any buffs or 13.0

Quit using ai to write your god damn posts

Hmm, quite surprised to receive a reply here.**

First, this isn’t my original post—it was created by someone else earlier. I’m not reposting for attention.

Second, why? My latest reply dates back to July 20th. I haven’t been bumping my own thread.

As a non-native English speaker, language learning typically starts with daily expressions before specializing in field-specific terminology. Simply put, there’s no need for someone to master military English unrelated to their profession—unless they work in that field.

This community includes Russian, Spanish, French, German, Japanese, and Chinese speakers—even English varies (American vs. Japanese English, etc.).

**I don’t use AI to write my posts. I only use it to:

  • Adapt phrasing to English conventions (avoiding unintentional bluntness)
  • Ensure browser translators work smoothly
  • Preserve every critical detail (since AI sometimes omits “unfamiliar” but essential content)**

**My process:

  1. Draft locally in my native language
  2. Revise via community feedback
  3. Translate with AI
  4. Proofread for accuracy**
    (Full workflow evidence available upon request)

I label AI-assisted translations to prevent native speakers from mistaking me for a bot due to potential robotic undertones.

This is not a nerf.

Because the current airframe differences are insufficient to warrant BR adjustment for this aircraft—whether upward or downward.

Whereas differences in armament will inevitably necessitate BR changes.

Furthermore, an aircraft’s BR post-decompression must align with its weapon systems!

Armament capabilities must directly determine BR allocation—this is a fundamental principle of balance accountability.

The only viable method to achieve 120 countermeasures is:

Proactively decompress the BR of the US premium F/A-18C amid severe current BR compression.

*Equip it with 4-6 AIM-9Ms and raise its BR to 13.0/13.3/13.3+.

This configuration would create distinct strengths/weaknesses versus the premium F-2A at 13.0 BR (which possesses subsonic agility second only to the Typhoon/Rafale).

(Future BR adjustments would simply apply equally to both the F/A-18C and premium F-2A.)

*BR decompression is inevitable in the future.
You pay for premium vehicles using real-world currency/money.

Given equal pricing and identical other weapons—would you prefer:

  • Six AIM-9Ls + 60 countermeasures?
    Or:
  • Four-to-six AIM-9Ms + 120 countermeasures?

no, they are different, you can do both

F18C(E) is undertiered to me but could be left alone until decompression, but F-18A has to go to 12.7 and just get 7Ps as well

If we consider that AI attaches too many things to your posts
Maybe using an ‘older translator’ like [Google Translate] is easier to understand.

Or maybe you can find someone else to translate in Chinese section of this forum.

AI for translating is a lot better, I just think its the jarring formatting and useless headings etc. That make it read like its a corporate/HR statement instead of a forum post lol.

Surely there is a way to make it look more natural, i doubt thats how the chinese posts look like on here.

It seems to me that the built-in Yandex translator will be enough. My English level leaves much to be desired, so I just hope that the browser will be able to correctly convey my thoughts.

By the way, I would like to see automatic translation into the selected language in the game chat, as implemented in EVE. Why don’t all developers do this? After all, text translation is performed on the user’s local computer and, in theory, is technically easy to implement.

Ya that would be cool, always wonder what the chinese are saying late night NA servers lol.