Time and time again, flying with predominant US energy planes the whole team flying on the deck…
Does someone have a good explanation for that?
I dont comprehend that because I usually fly 109s or even Zeros,…we get altitude.
I would just love an explanation for that
They have a sub par climb rate compared to their Similar BR’d counterparts so there is literally no point in climbing since someone is always going to be above you. Or Rush you down while you are optimally climbing and thus fairly low energy.
Sure they might have a slight “edge” at altitude but there is no way to reliably get there. And it further requires one to adhere to retaining energy or you get fucked by the poor acceleration and so die in short order to the BS that is a knife fight in a phonebooth that people call RB.
Gaijin previously ran an event that put US team at an altitude advantage and they rinsed their opponents since they are otherwise very much Under BR’d across the board if played properly since the average Pilot really struggles since there is no to reliably make them work otherwise.
The P-39 is really the only (prop) airframe to buck the trend but is has fairly anemic armament, and has to deal with wing mounted guns which is a significant downside in a head on.
It also doesn’t help that they tend to be overly modeled due to the wealth of available data on their performance, and so get their foibles modeled where others lack data (P-51 rudder issues, etc.).
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ah yes “tell everyone you’re US main without telling that you’re US main” type of post
US teams always been bad, since I remember they lack any cognitive functions, and the only reason their w/l ratio went up is due to introduction of mixed battles in Air RB. Before that they got clapped like 80% of the time, especially against JP
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Probably a combination of many reasons, but one is that US fighters tend to get a lot of good ground ordnance. So I’ll often see them taking a full load out and base/ground pounding.
Some P-51s get a pretty cool load out variety:
Well they did ask, and who better to identify the issues?
And anyway if you want better match making just use one of the multitude of options in the other trees, it really doesn’t help that there is at least one option somewhere that you can run into a mirror match.
The secret is that they are no better or worse than the average player is, it doesn’t help that their advantages aren’t obvious if not antithetical to the natural playstyle of said average pilots?
Was there ever anything a P-80A could do about an R2Y2 coming in from the stratosphere, due to the bomber spawn on pacific maps and the fixed spawns?
I main US air, I played the P-51s and P-47s a lot. Plenty of people just wanna ground pound, there are some good loadout options. I prefer climbing and then booming n zooming, it’s pretty hard to counter, but it’s a matter of personal preference and the mustangs are quite versatile
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us teams are terrible but that’s because they have the most new players and thus choose to 1. head on absolutely everything 2. turn fight anything. Us planes really aren’t the best at turn fighting so they usually lose as they don’t understand energy fighting. proof? 4.7 f8f-1 what the F*** do you do against that with a fw190, or the p51h3 just ruling 6.3 for literal years while waffle stomping everything.
F8F-1 would still over perform at top tier, that thing is an absolute menace, especially when spaded
ngl, nation mains are the worst people to ask.
They tend to believe that their nation is hated, nerfed, sucks, over tiered, etc. While claiming basically every other nation is op, buffed, under tiered, hand-held, etc.
A russian main will tell you that the r27er is not that strong. German main tells you that the tiger is weak. US main tells you that the US never gets anything good.
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Why, was anything I said particularly wrong though?
This is more so a facet of Gaijin taking the easy way out and only implementing what tech and airframes they can easily repackage to bulk out other trees because forward progress is the only thing that makes them money so there is a breakneck pace of powercreep and the majority of trees would have untenable gaps in them otherwise.
Alternately Gaijin like to “fabricate” structural problems and then sell the solution back to the player-base, take for example Targeting pods in the US tech tree.
The first TGP to apear was the TIALD Jaguar with 2.11, and it took until 2.27 to get the F-14B though the A-6E TRAM (a fancy new “top of the line” premium) was introduced in 2.23. And the perfect candidate the F-4E had been around since 1.97.
As a Further example a mainstay of the tree the F-4E has had significant issues with Gaijin’s unwillingness to actually produce a workable, specific, configuration.(see report here) nor keep it relevant with revised electronics or stores so it can keep pace with other additions, (even though the solutions are already implemented on other F-4s in game).
And it’s not as if issues for the Teen series airframes are any better either, due to overly specific rules for stores, and then making rulings on “technical” capability to mount others. and basically only ever dipping into suggestion reports in order to make soft balancing changes.
Honestly?
because many people will lick what someone on the internet spits - ^skill issues^ , ameribads etc…
If you want to play those planes good half your game you’ll be climbing to find yourself already outclimbed or half your team would be already on the deck.
Those planes were made to escort bombers aka meet the enemy at 5-8km altitude…
And there is the point that the game itself pressures you for grinding… So, will you try play good and in the end have no points , or speedblitz whatever points you can do and go next game . Talking with grind in mind alone.
Also, before someone says something (not so) smart… I don’t main, i play relatively everything .
US teams are like orange cats,no braincells to be found. Always been all the way since 2013, they had the absolutely most braindead playerbase. Which is reason why great planes such as Bearcats where the 20mm one is where it belongs at 6.3 makes the exact same plane minus 20 mm guns at 4.7 or 4.3 idr now, while retaining same attributes. Or F4U-4 being absurdly low aswell.