US F-5E should get AIM-9P-4

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sure lemme hop on a few games


@someweirdname
https://warthunder.com/ru/tournament/replay/428626521982058910

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1.7km target closing in

not 3km like the guy claimed

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You’re right, it’s only 5.75 s. :P

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There is no point in arguing this.
Go testflight harrier GR1, put yourself 2.5km behind mig15 with zero closing speed and fire a missile. See what happens. Simple as.

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Even if you’re fighting something like MiG-15 or F-86, it’s the same story. You’re completely helpless if you wanna dogfight em.

F-106 is comparable to an F-104 in terms of effectiveness imo.

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so very effective if you know how to use it

a Good Starfighter player is untouchable

I’d call that a High Skill requirement plane

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It’s an f104 which has the ability to out pull anything for a 2 turns. F104 is already strong.

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He was clearly not closing in.

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SRAAMs were heavily buffed. They have ~AIM-9J range now.

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The F-104 is easily in the bottom 3 worst 8.3-10.3 planes after the ahistorical drag nerfs. F-106 isn’t as bad, but it still sucks.

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Worst 3?

Aircraft I would rather play an F104 in

  • A-7
  • Jag GR.1
  • Bucc S.2
  • Bucc S1
  • F100
  • F-117
  • F3H-2
  • Ki-200 (yes that’s 8.3
  • F-84F
  • J29F
  • A32A
  • B57A and B
  • B-66
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In what world are F-100D, F3H, J29F, A32, Ki-200, and Jaguar Gr.1 worse?

F-117, B-66, and Buccaneer are for sure worse, and you could MAYBE make a case for the A-7, F-84F, and B-57, but the majority of that list is far better than F-104.

F-100D and F3H-2 are easily some of the best planes for their BR in WT.

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Have you not played that Jag?
The GR.1A is great but the GR.1 is just a brick thats not fast enough to make up for it.

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If given a choice between a supersonic with Aim-9Bs and a supersonic with Aim-9Gs, I’ll take the 9Gs.

Even if the Jaguar really is that bad, comparing the F-104 to such a bad plane to say it’s good, is really just saying it’s bad.

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So you haven’t played it?

There’s a big difference between being just about able to get past mach 1 after a long straight flight, Vs getting supersonic 20 seconds after take off.

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Doesn’t sound much different from the F-104 which loses 200mph in a single 90° turn. Again, comparing the F-104 to the Jaguar, even if it is slightly better, is still a far cry from the F-104 being equal or even better than F-84F or F-100D.

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F-84F is actually depressing, don’t tell me you really think it’s a playable vehicle? I can’t be missing something because seriously, its engine sucks, it doesn’t turn and bleeds all its energy when it tries turning. CanNOT be compared to the F-104

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really now?

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F-84F is essentially a Bomber and should be used like one

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if you’re turning in an F-104 you’re doing something wrong

but again, that aircraft is a Highly Skill requiring one that needs specific tactics to play well