Doesn’t Matter its a all aspect, the F-5E is balanced currently. Its the Thai models that should go up.
Also if you have sources that they used 9L’s on US F5E then submit a bug report
Can agree with you on the size, with my okay aim I can rarely if EVER hit one that plays it right
However in the aircraft I mentioned, they can use their speed/climbrate advantage to get away from the F-5’s guns, since while it appears to match the Crusaders for example in sea level speed, if not slightly exceed, it cannot climb with one, and by extent should not be able to climb with any of the aforementioned fighters
And do what?
Bro, yet again, I said 9P-4s, NOT 9Ls. Huge difference. They have the same seeker but the 9P-4’s missile body is the 9J’s. It cannot pull as hard or fly as far as a 9L.
+Gaijin definitely isn’t one to care for ahistorical loadouts, seeing as some US vehicles use Canadian export rounds? And top tier Russia are also using tungsten export rounds? Yeah this isn’t a bug report problem
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anything to get the overperforming BS that the F-5 Tigers are moved up
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Boom & zoom seems like the only viable tactic since they won’t be getting missiles off on the F-5 otherwise, and maybe they could score a lucky hit. However in the right hands, neither aircraft should be winning unless it was in a dogfight, in which case the F-5 clears
Please read, addressed 2x:
F-5 draws at worse and wins by default if the other aircraft commits to an engagement
not that huge tbh, still a brilliant missile for a head on jousting and more than enough to stop anything that can extend away, the F-5 has no need for a dogfight missile as it is the best dogfighter of its BR ranges by a considerable chunk (through unaccuracies in the flight model but this isnt the point)
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Again if it gets all aspect missiles it should go up. Giving it all aspects allows for it to force targets to bleed speed and get forced into a dogfight. Trust me ive played the one with 9L’s and if i can nuke most teams with the A model the E needs to go up. Again massive skill issue to think you need the all aspects and to stay 11.0
It seems my opinion was swayed though, indeed the F-5s should be fixed before considering any buffs, and the FCU should be 11.7 especially with that missile loadout.
Thank you for your inputs
Honestly its a meh difference the main use of them is to catch targets off guard and to force a target to bleed speed which any all aspect will do. Once a target gets slow its over the F5E will win unless the pilot is a noob
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If they fixed the IR heat signature alone I would be more in favor of giving the F-5E 9P4s since it only does get the 2 missiles and 9P4s arent crazy. Without those fixes I am adamantly against buffing it in any shape or form.
Ultimately it ALSO needs flight model nerfs, as I don’t see how it can be anything other than overperforming here too with its UFO flight model. If that happens, not only can it get 9P4s but it could probably go lower in BR.
Wasn’t saying it was needed, it was by way of comparison with the FCU which is merely .3 higher and has double the number of missiles, all of which are far superior to the 9J.
Either way it seems to make more sense the FCU should go up instead of the US F-5E getting better missiles
They should nerf the flares to historical values for all F5’s or force them to have double CM use
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How does an all aspect do this but a rear aspect does not
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Which is what i said above with the Thai F5’s needing to go up
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I’m sorry I was unaware about that bugged IR signature, that alone seems depressing tbh
Has anyone submitted a bug report on their flight models though? Are they actually overperforming or simply undertiered?
Ive had targets still dodge in front aspect causing them to bleed speed dodging my 9L. My 9J’s cant do that additionally the ability to lock targets in a more side aspect view greatly enhances the forcing of the target into a more defensive position when dogfighting or passing targets
I admit I do not have FM data to point to, as almost nobody ever does regarding aircraft as its not easy to obtain or read anyway. However, the FM simply, in my opinionated opinion, does not have any sense of realism regarding its energy retention correlated with its ability to turn as hard as it does. The reason this thing is unbeatable in a dogfight is because it pulls like a delta wing but loses energy like its doing a 2 circle ratefight instead of a one circle scissor
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They don’t have to do this. They can fly straight and pop a single flare and a 9L will be decoyed. Same with side aspect. Pretty much the same with rear aspect…
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