it’s beginning to get on my nerves. there are so many basic problems in sim mode:
so please just stop with this nonsense here.
I don’t like people who talk like they’re neutral.
But there are so many crazy people here that they say g14 and d30 are at the same level. The tests that have been carried out supposedly show no difference between these with their flashy graphics, and they even claim that the performance of these old model planes is better than the new model planes. (He immediately started working while writing a comment to the other friend)
These guys have officially become a gang here. I have struggled a lot with people with this type of character problem.
Even vehicles that create instability in the game can be removed from accessibility. like panther 2.
Look, he started his job again.
He also shamelessly accused him of being a Nazi fan or something. IMMORAL PERSON.
I ask the moderators to give the necessary punishment to this dishonorable person.
If it were up to immoral people like you, F86s wouldn’t cause any problems. Again, about that, he adds, “Since F86 rotates worse at low speeds, BF 109s can easily fight with it” and he also adds graphics below, here you go, there is no error in the game, you don’t know how to play, bla bla bla.
If it were up to our friend, who is a member of the forum gang and has mental problems like this, Leopard 1 Panther D might come across him. Because Leopard 1’s armor is weak and it can be fought easily, he does not see any problems with this.
I say again, the producers are spoiling these.
Although I noticed a new game on Steam (or not ?), I guess they have a new game in the works. If there is a game in which such imbalances are eliminated, the transition can be made. This friend can experience pleasure and orgasm instead of hunting g6s and 14s with d30.
OK, then I’ll discuss it now too :D
You don’t have to calculate the P-51 D-30 in horsepower but in camelpower. so 30% more over the desert
ok, joking aside :) so Bf 109 G: we have several airworthy Bf 109s here in Germany. an E-4, a G-6, two extremely modified aircraft with Rolls Royce engines and two more with Rolls Royce engines were converted by the Messerschmitt Foundation with Daimler Benz engines. Unfortunately I only have books and links in German.
there is extensive flight experience. Even the G-6 engine is so powerful that it pushed the testers into their seats more than expected. Don’t underestimate your Bf 109
Keep in mind that in War Thunder the aircraft are changed update after update after update. the current aircraft are just a snapshot.
So there is no reason to insult each other here.
The man defends an injustice that is clearly evident in the game, as if he is playing us for fools, by filling it with graphics that are practically worthless and documents that reveal his own deception. This is a situation that I cannot stand.
When all the manipulation he has done is revealed, it is not enough and he takes things to insulting levels by saying that there is no gasoline in the Luftwaffe and that he is a Nazi.
The man has such a talent for manipulation that he can make us believe that the BF 109 K4 and F86 are equal, and that the F86 is actually a worse plane than the K4 because it cannot turn at low speeds, and therefore the K4 is actually a better plane. Joseph Gobbels is a rookie compared to this guy.
you insult him but also violently my friend.
Yes. His skullcap fell off and he looked bald.
Didn’t we send you a link? My friend hasn’t seen d30 ww2. d20 and 25 saw combat. Didn’t it even say in the article we linked to that these planes were used in the Korean War?
I don’t understand what these moderators do. The man constantly insults me and shamelessly calls me a Nazi fan. How many times do I have to complain for it to be rewarded?
Now he started insulting. Because you’re out of arguments. You can bray as much as you want. There is obvious injustice.
I even need to open a topic about tanks. A device called EBR 1954 was added to the tank simulation between 4 and 5. Everyone knows that speed is everything in tank simulation battles. Although they also added a tool called pt76, which is still active at the time.
I’m tired of dealing with these brats.
If the P-51 D-5 and P-51 D-20 were given their 150 octane fuel and historically accurate 75 inches of manifold pressure then their in-game performance would be identical to the P-51 D-30. I’ve gone over this dozens of times with you…but you deliberately misunderstand the point.
Your first post in this thread was calling me a slur. Stop trying to play the victim.
This topic is not about tanks at all. The only reason you keep bringing it up is to feed your sense of victimization. It has nothing to do with anything that has been mentioned in this thread.
Don’t tell me about gasoline pressure or high octane gasoline. In other words, the plane was named d5 d10 d15 20 25 30 for hobby purposes at that time. So, you are saying that the tail locking has not been resolved, the tail has not been strengthened, etc.?
Frankly, I wouldn’t be offended if the truth, whatever it is, was added to the game. For example, it is wrong that the d13 plane is 5.3. Even though he has a rotational disability that would make a person have a seizure.
There is definitely a difference between planes. What I want, of course, is to add aircraft according to which aircraft are on duty on which date, in order to avoid injustice, ESPECIALLY IN SIMULATION BATTLES, taking into account some balances. This is what I’ve been talking about for a long time. I feel like I’ve been made a fool of.
Am I an idiot that I should fight against planes whose performance and year of entry into service are at a higher level than me, at least in the game, on the game (since it is no different to you, in reality)?
If some tools in the game disrupt the balance too much, they are removed from use. like panther 2.
The tank issue is out of place but another problem.
The high octane fuel is where all of the performance difference comes from. The only visual difference is the addition of the dorsal fin in front of the tail and it has no effect on the in-game flight model. This is also a piece that was retrofitted on D-5s in the field as well.
None of the Fw-190Ds are especially strong for their battle rating. Being able to roll around like fidget spinner does not end up being especially useful… especially at the skill level of most players.
You would not want that at all for the simple reason that all late War German props would end up getting stomped into the ground. The P-51 D-5 would run 150 octane and remain at the same battle rating.
The LF IX Spitfire would remain at the same battle rating opposite Bf.109 G-14. The Tempest Mk.V would also be reduced to where the G-14 is. And same with the Mk.14 Spitfire, and it would run 21-25 inch/lbs of boost and climb as well as the LF IX while also being faster and better accelerating than the Bf.109 K-4.
The P-38L would also use 150 octane and would get around 2000hp per engine instead of the 1550hp that it has in game. Imagine nearly P-38K performance with the boosted control surfaces and dive brakes of the P-38L.
Yes you are.
Firstly because you have been complaining about having to fight planes that have performance levels that are nearly identical to yours and that have performance that matches their historical counterparts; i.e a 1944 Bf.109 having to fight a 1944 Spitfire, or the same plane having to fight a 1945 Mustang that is for all intents and purposes identical to the 1944 Mustang; Gaijin could literally change the skin on the D-30 and rename it D-10 and it would be the exact same plane…but now it satisfies your WWII Nazi fetish.
Secondly because you have not even thought of the implications of correctly modeling everything based on historical accuracy. Germany would not do any better than it currently does. In fact it would probably be worse off if it was forced to fight in a historical simulation because all of the ridiculously under tiered planes on the axis side would have to be changed.
No longer would Italy have the best tech tree P-47 variant at a lower BR…nope that is now in KOREAN WAR VETERAN matchmaker. Same goes for basically every minor nation tech tree. By your logic the S-199 should be tiered with super props due to it’s service date even though it’s the worst version of the Bf.109 ever produced.
No longer would Germany be paired up in joint battles with Japan either. No more Ki-84, J2M2, and Ki-61 to curb stomp the competition.
I can compensate for my stupidity by not fighting with planes that are stronger than me. However, since the issue of mental retardation is largely congenital, I cannot recommend much to you. as fate.
Frankly, it would be better without Japanese planes. They just go around in simple ways and steal my clay. You know your spinning heroes well in your duels where you spin like a pinwheel :)
Don’t exaggerate this monster you call spitfire lf. The biggest talent of the friends who use it is that they keep going back and forth. Thank God we can escape because the German planes are a little fast. It is difficult to say the same thing against American planes. It’s like a dream.
Frankly, encountering equivalent aircraft is not a problem for me. However, as I said, I am in favor of not adding project planes that are excessive, such as the P38 K series (we shot a nice dulleo at high altitude with the K4) as you said. as well as the extreme performance LF series aircraft. When German planes were tampered with, they were made in both menthol and nitrogen-supported models. I don’t know if it is included in this game, but this type of aircraft is added against the LF model. Or it can be removed from the series and this arduous task is avoided.
This pretty much sums up your entire position.
You do not really care about historical accuracy. The only thing that you care about is ensuring that the planes you face can never give you even a modicum of competition.
The Spitfire LF IX, Tempest Mk.V, P-38L, and P-51 D-5/10/20 are all directly contemporary to the Bf.109 G-14 and would have been using 150 octane fuel and higher engine settings after D - Day. But you don’t want to fight those…no you want to use idealized versions of German planes to fight exclusively slower Allied planes with engine power settings that were only used prior to D-Day.
The Bf.109s that we have in the game already run their maximum engine settings. The Bf.109 K-4 runs a 1.98 ATA setting that was only possibly used in the last few months of the war, and not the more common 1.80 ATA setting.
You seem to be exaggerating.
it does not matter.
As long as the planes are modern to each other.
If it were up to you, d5 10 15 25 was already written for hobby purposes.
For example, I took a look at the P47s and there are models with improvements in some maneuvering issues.
Actually, I think you’re exaggerating the issue. You can’t get anywhere with hypothetical conversations.
There is an injustice in the game right now. The talk of 150 octane gasoline is probably an add-on that very few aircraft use.
Frankly, it could be as you say. Then, just like now, you would go and have a dogfight with bombers. So it doesn’t make any difference to me.
Yeah I’m not even going to try to translate this because it’s a completely incoherent statement.
150 Octane was not a rare add on at all. It was used operationally in Europe from 1944 until the end of the war. In fact it is significantly less rare than the fuels required to allow the Bf.109 K-4 to reach 1.98 ATA.
Here I have even attached a primary source;
And here is another source on the Mk.14 Spitfire performance advantage from 150 octane.
It gains 30mph in top speed at sea level. That is 48 kph. It can do 620kph on the deck. It’s faster than the Bf.109 K-4 at every altitude. It climbs better. It turns better. It rolls better. It dives better.
Historical accuracy would result in German air force getting curb stomped into irrelevance from 1944 onwards. The design and engineering of their planes were largely inferior to the modern fighters that the Allies were fielding by 1944, and if the war had continued longer than it did then Germany would have found itself attempting to field Bf.109K and Ta-152Hs against planes like the P-51H.
If the planes in 44 have better performance, why didn’t they reflect this in the game? . If it were up to you, it means they were all using 150 octane fuel. If you look at it, it has been determined that the fuel quality of the Germans is similar to 150 octane towards the end. Frankly, I don’t really know.
However, what I see now is that some of the planes were raised more than necessary and some were shot down. Like d9 d30.
It suits me buddy. As long as there is historical consistency. no problem.
Although I don’t really believe what they say.
If it were up to you, of course, there could even be a respawn limit as the Germans do not have gasoline.
Because you’re being biased. You directly accuse him of nasism and launch into a personal attack. immoral creature.
The reason it is not reflected in the game is because if it was then the game would be pretty unfun for anyone having to fight against it. The game is balanced in order to make the game actually enjoyable and somewhat fair.
I think it’s okay. 109 f4 is devastating. BR of fw a5 a4 is too high.
I don’t think they will cause much trouble. If historical balance is observed, natural balance will be achieved.
Only on its rich octane rating, which wasn’t used because it caused excessive engine wear due to oil contamination. C3 fuel as used had an octane rating of ~100.
B4 fuel (92 octane) with MW-50 ADI also had an equivalent octane rating of ~100.
I’d have to disagree. The F4U-4 essentially disintegrates under any fire at all, with the wing fold being particularly fragile. and stiffens VERY hard at high speeds. Additionally, it is out-climbed by almost all fighters in axis nations, including yaks, 109s, even 190s and some japanese fighters- planes that are not so restricted to boom and zoom. It takes quite a while to learn to play well.
Just a small tip, never trust the stat cards. The information they give are often blatantly wrong- The P-51H, which the card states can climb only 17m/s, actually climbs 30m/s at min. fuel.
Now, I personally really like the corsair, as it is a solid plane with high speed and good ammo count, but placing it with superprops is really not a good idea, no offense.
This is true for almost every plane.
It is faster than all of them, climb rate matters less in Air Sim as maps are huge and objectives are at low alt.
The main issue with the F4U-4 is that (unless something has changed) it has a VERY forgiving flight model. I provided a video in another thread where you can yank the stick to your balls with no rudder input and it’ll barely stall at all. This lets the Corsair do things that at times it really shouldn’t be able to do.
It’s this that makes taking Corsairs into the vertical or stall fighting them incredibly dangerous as they can unrealistically yank the nose around even at very low speeds.
American aircraft in general have very odd flight models… I think they might’ve fixed the unstallable P-47’s but last I checked the P-40 will still just lazily roll over at full deflection.
