UK Is In A World Of Trouble For Ground RB Top Tier

Honstly Considering Australia has been delivered Sepv3 Abrams tanks getting an Australian sepv3 mite be the only future left for the uk in terms of tanks. or maybe arjun from India but i cant see that being top tier

Maybe. But I’d argue that a properly modeled CR2 would make a decent support tank and there is always the full CR3 which even if lacking in armour or moblity (the former I doubt and the latter may yet change if it gets a better engine) but it could always be given a shell advantage instead. Also, the CR2s only really lost their place in the meta when they lost their fire rate advantage.

But I think Britains place in a team will always be our CAS advantage and that should be leaned into with a decent top tier IFV and SPAA options.

Things like the Warrior VERDI II would make a great addition to fullfiill both.

Arjun from what I know, would barely be 10.7

I think VRCC is even less mobile than 120, it’s basically on CR2 level.
You also have a faster CR2 variant which will actually be faster than 120, which is hilarious.

You can set the start magnification by using your scroll wheel.

It at least has some armor and BN even has a great APS.
Arietes on the other hand are just light tanks, with no meaningful armor.

yeah pretty much, i just wish the devs would do literally anything to mix up the tank meta at top tier as its been pretty stagnant in terms of whats meta for way too long,

the CR2E goes 72kmph, the VRCC and RGO will go 110 flat out

yeah i do xD

yeah but in the meta of WT the CR2 armour isnt even worth the trade off for next to nothing mobility, garbage round, pathetic reload past the first 4 shots then the shoddy ammo layout too.

Maybe on concrete.
CR2E has 24 HP/t and will actually beat Centauro to a spot on most maps, which is kind of funny as one is a light tank while the other is one of the slowest MBTs.

Depends on which variant. BN has amazing APS that can stop even darts while Ariete has zero effective armor and also has awful ammo layout too.

no it will not, ive used the VRCC and got over 500 games in the CR2s, the centauros will get beaten acceleration wise, but theyll far outpace the CR2 over a longer distance to a location.

this isnt me saying centauros are good or bad btw, just speed wise it will out doe the CR2

It rarely works for me, but the APS is good for dealing with helis and the likes… depending how much they throw your way.

Currently going for the chinese VT4A which also has a pretty good aps from what ive seen.

Good thing (not for Centauros lol) our maps aren’t that big.

My BN intercepted a lot of crap not gonna lie, especially on decently sized maps.

Only on long distance maps where the darts loose suffecient velocity (usually need to be fired over 1km away). They are not a magical shield that will protect you on most CQB maps.

Ariete is faster, smaller and has a 5 second reload with a decently sized first stage ammo with DM53. Yes the CR2 is a little tankier, but a hit anywhere other than the turret cheeks will still likely result in a 1 shot.

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I never said it was a magical shield.

Centauro is a bit tankier than Ariete, CR2s (especially BN) are basically bunkers in comparison.
At least you can go hull down in CR2s with relative effectiveness, meanwhile Ariete’s armor is dogshit even there.

Unless you aim for the 2 foot hole in the middle of the turret cheeks which is a guaranteed one shot.

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This. 100%. I was really annoyed when they buffed the Abrams reload to 5 seconds for no reason other than US teams were (still are) being shit at the game. That reload speed with the 4 man crew was the only thing the Challengers did better than anyone else. It kept them just inside the ‘competitive’ area. They were never gonna be meta, but being competitive was good enough.

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Yep, and combine with that fact that everyone else is also getting better armour and shells, even if we maintained the reload rate advantage, we’ve only gotten relatively speaking weaker.

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True, but having some armor + APS is always welcomed.
I wish CR2s get a larger ready rack though so their reload stays in line with others.

I always hear about you talking about the 20km range of the Mavericks, but i’ve never been able to get them to hit or even lock at that range. Could you please send a video of you taking off climbing launching and hitting. I would really appreciate it.

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You cant effectively go hull down, your breach will get hit almost every single time you go to fire, even if you do the turret wiggle it doesn’t work most times due to the size of the breach and how thin it is.

The apa is nice but.

The reload is genuinely shocking now adays.
Especially past the ready rack…

With over 500 games in the cr2s and one in the 3TD i can safely say in my experience they are some of the worst things ive had to use in game.

And its a shame due to tbe fact not only are they extremely impressive tanks especially for their time, but still relatively effective even now.
Out dated to an extent.

Kinda because irl they were more used as a platform used to fire Hesh.

They were designed to use L26 and L27A1 rounds as AT rounds as well, hesh was just prefered over HE

The tank chat on the cr2 by the tank museum is pretty good tbh if you haven’t seen it

You’re still better at it than Arietes.

Yeah so many tanks getting 5s reload was an indirect nerf to CR2s.
Stuff like M1A1 and AIM getting it is extremely egregious as well.