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No, thanks to topic but not :)
Yeah whoops mb :P
Yeah the Arietes are not as strong as you think. They have the best round for sure but they lack any sort of survivability and have mediocre mobility (M1A2s and Leo2s have better Hp/ton).
Truely an Italy moment
U played on Arieta? No? So don’t compare them
Completely forgets that the Ariete can be frontally killed by a Panzer 3 with ease even at a distance, and the turret cheeks can’t stop anything at all.
You’re being disingenuous. Raw stats don’t tell you the whole picture. Some vehicles have critical failures in their design. An example is the Conqueror. On paper, it has the best gun at its BR for penetration. In reality, it can be front penetrated by everything, can’t outrun anything, and its gun shatters on everything.
The Type 90 can outrun a BVM, which is one of the fastest tanks at 12.0. It also has a 4 second reload rate. If a Type 90 can survive effectively when in a full uptier while getting tons of kills, then it’s pretty obvious it shouldn’t see a T-72B and Challenger Mk.2 or Mk.3
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just remove the dm53 and it will be 1000 times worse than the type90, despite the thermal and 5 sec reload
I guess when people are going to find out about this armor layout, will go crazy:
Yet out of topic, the TKX (P) sits at same BR, is slighly slower in general and probable worse. But with a possible BR change from 11.3 to 11.7, this one would be affected. I’m thinking about rating this vehicle, but I need to spade it first.
better turret armor thickness but not coverage, gen 3 thermal, everything else is flat out worse than the type 90
I wonder when Gaijin are going to work on more accurate armor models both for Leclerc and Type 10.
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Type 90 is a Leopard 2A4 that fires DM33 every 4 seconds.
Leopard 2A4 is 10.7. DM33 and 4 second reload is not enough for 1 BR higher.
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Its a nuke machine for sure, but not to op its killable.
idk why you would use the Ariete as a benchmark for anything other than being overtiered.
The Type 90s are comparable to the 11.3 M1s; worse protection coverage, worse optics, worse gun handling, even worse survivability due to internal fuel tanks with less crew and worse ammunition with the tradeoff of being quicker and 1(.3) sec faster reload
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Mobility, too.
Type 10 and Leclerc are the fastest and most agile MBTs in service; yet, ingame. Leclerc has Leopard-level mobility and Type 10 has flat out worse mobility than the Type 90 it surpasses in real life by an enormous margin…
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If only Gaijin models the HMT of the Type 10 or at least buff the HP artificially
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Indeed. Someone made a calculation; by raising Type 10’s engine power to 1,333hp, the effects of its transmission would be simulated…
But this solution was rejected…
Also, Type 10’s steering has been gamebreakingly broken since the tank’s release and it remains unaddressed and unfixed… press A/D for 0.3 seconds, and the tank pulls a 180° turn where it loses all its speed.
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A 4 second reload can decimate entire teams. The Type 90 doesn’t do anything particularly worse than the Type 10.
I don’t believe it’s a good fit for 11.3. The M1A1 Abrams has a much more pronounced weakpoint unlike the Type 90, which might have less armor, but can’t reliably be killed by autocannons frontally.
I used the Ariete to show the discrepancy of capability within the BR. The Type 90 is significantly more capable than the 12.0 Ariete.
what