Doesn’t change anything I’ve said though.
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Exactly, DM33 is completely inadequate at 12.7 which is what you will mostly get while queuing in in 11.7 and makes the tank with 0 armor and atrocious gun handling, gen 1 thermals (gunner), 0 commander thermals, 3 crew, almost completely boring to play, because you need to tip-toe everywhere.
At 11.3 you got bigger fish to worry about than the Type 90, like the aforementioned Terminators, SPAAGs and all the other nonsense that instantly vaporizes any 10.3 tank. Next to that a 4 second reload is an eternity.
I’d like to see you aim a little at 12.7 1500m distance when you’re fighting hull down tanks with JM33. please teach me oh mighty newbie.
BMPT yes, but others ? Not really.
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I have the Type 90 and I’m not the one crying, I also use the m1 with 379mm pen against 11.7 vehicles without crying, get better at the game…
You also have great maneuverability and pneumatic suspension that basically allows you to play hull down anywhere…
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I’ve never really had issues with the Type 90s (and TKX-P) at their current BR.
Do the rounds suck? Yeah, I really wish we got something other than JM33 at 11.7, But since the Type 90 is so maneuverable you can just flank in it most of the time and do well.
I don’t think a less armored 2A4 with a 4 second reload should be fighting a Leo 2A7. But I don’t think it should go down to 11.3 and fight things like the T-72AV (even though it would be incredibly fun for the Type 90.)
Overall the issue, as usual, is compression. :P
We don’t have enough BRs to place the Type 90s and TKX-P at a healthy spot.
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Type 90 is fine with its current BR and round.
If the tkx p or 90 for a dm43 equivelant for example they would end up at 12.3
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Using personal experience isn’t a very strong argument btw.
So two people have the vehicle, one is saying it should stay at 11.7 and one saying it should go down but yeah my opinion doesn’t matter, definitely no bias or skill issue with the people crying
The JM33 is fine mate you’ve a four second reload
If the Type 90 got a better round its BR would sky rocket
Holy skill issue. 400mm~ of pen is more than enough to penetrate most top tier tanks.
Exactly! I believe it’s 480mm, With that pen against top tier you’re either going to pen a weak spot or your not.
IMO rounds that pen a lot like the DM53 end up not spalling as much and it actually hurts performance.
The greater the residual penetration, the more fragments.
I’d like to see you pen hull down Russian MBTs at 1500M+ with DM33 consistently. Why are you all inventing nonsense, seriously, do you think I just started playing this game.
You can do that quite easily with DM33 mate
Didn’t say you just started playing, just said its a skill issue.
Their UFP? Definitely not, I don’t think any tank can.
But you can shoot their turret*. Either that or use your amazing mobility to get out of his sights.
T-90M and T-80BVM
Furthest I could get in the training camp,
Just shoot center mass turret. You don’t even need to be precise, just shoot near where the cannon would be.
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I disliked facing anything hull down since 480mm isn not enough for most turrets. And the flank topic is over when the tank is in a possition where you just cant flank him since the map is open… the round pretty much has nothing to do at this br since you basically have to hit an barrel/breech. An extra br is probably needed for it. and since ground rb is in such a poor state I dont rlly touch it rn.
Moral of the story. the argument for the tank to stay at 11.7 is just as good as the one for it moving down to 11.3
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Absolutely not. The argument for moving it to 11.3 is just skill issue.
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Its an absolutely fantastic tank, I got them years ago and even when i was a 0.6kd player was positive with them 😂
They’re ridiculously strong now as well, they survive more hits due to the modules being modelled properly, unlike before when DM23 would nuke the ammo clean through the front of the turret
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