Type 10 is amazing

(These are the more common agreeable things I could find, I am no expert in this specific topic and there are things that I could be very wrong about. If you doubt this info, I highly advise you to do your own research to get your own conclusions.)

What’s commonly defines a generation for MBT’s.

Generation 1
Gen 1 are defined being the first “Universal Tanks”, Tanks that are matching or even outmatching the heavy tanks in protection and firepower, allowing them to be used more effectively in mutliple roles.
First generation tanks are primarily medium tanks and later changed into main battle tanks through changes in doctrine.

The first generation tanks include
Centurion
T-54
M48 Patton
Fv4202
T-55
Type-59
Type-61

(Other tanks at the time that could be given the designation too, but weren’t due to their medium tank designation.)

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M26 Pershing
Pz.V Panther
T-44

2nd generation
The second generation of MBT marked a turn in the doctrine. This generation was also marked by the utilisation of Night vision, new advanced ammunition such as the APDS, HEAT, HESH and later the APFSDS.

The second generation tanks include
M60
T-62
Leopard 1
Panzer 61
MBT-70
Vickers MBT Mk.I
AMX-30
T-64
FV 4201 Chieftain
Magach 3
Strv 103
WZ 122
Panzer 68
Type-69
T-72
Type-79
Olifant Mk.1/Mk.2
Type-74
Magach 5
Vickers MBT Mk.3
Shir 2
Merkava Mk.I / Mk.II
Type-80
Type-86
Type-96
OF-40
MB-3 Tamoyo

3rd Generation
The third generation of main battle tanks is characterized by composite armour and computer-stabilized fire control systems, which allow firing on the move as well as very high first hit probability on targets multiple kilometres away. Most of those tanks had calibers larger than 105mm.

The list of 3rd gen tanks are
M1 / M1A1 / M1A2 Abrams
Leopard 2
T-80
T-84
Challenger 1
AMX-40
M-84
K1 / K1A1
Merkava Mk.III
Type-90 / Type-90 T-ReC
Leclerc
T-90A
T-72M2 Moderna
PT-91 Twardy
Ariete
Challenger 2
ZTZ-96A / B
ZTZ-99
MBT-2000
Arjun Mk.1
Sabra M60
M60A3 SLEP

Generation 3.5
An intermediate generation of third-generation tanks modernized with newer hardware and software to keep themselves up to date with the everchanging modern battlefield.
These upgrades are often included (not always at once,) as for example; more advanced thermal sights (Generation 3), datalink capability, Softkill APS, hardkill APS, Laser Warning Receivers.

List of gen 3.5 tanks include
Merkava Mk.4M
Leopard 2A7+
T-84 Oplot-M
T-90M
K1A2
ZTZ-99A
VT-4
T-80BVM
T-72B-3 UBH
M1A2 SEP V2 / V3
Leopard 2 PL
Ariete AMV
Type-10
K2 Black Panther
Challenger 2 Black Knight

4th generation
The next generation of main battle tanks in development has autoloaders becoming increasingly more common, even in western designs, with some moving all of the crew into a more heavily protected hull space with unmanned turrets. The tendency to increase calibre sizes continues, with multiple designs having capability for 140mm guns to be fitted. A greater focus on active protection systems, especially against drones and loitering munition is also present, as is the introduction of AI-assisted systems.

4th generation list of tanks include

T-14 Armata
Leclerc XLR
Challenger 3
Type 100
KF-51
Abrams X
M1E3 Abrams
Leopard 2A8

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Seems like someone also making assumptions without any experience on this tank.

Gun depression and elevation degrees can be adjusted by suspension so it actually gets much better depression than most tanks at same br.

Both horizontal and elevation speeds are at acceptable rates (should be 45/30 iirc but gaijin refuses to fix it) .

I thought it was a nerf since type 10 has 4 second reload.

Maybe that’s what they think but still its such a BS way to nerf it. Type-10/TKX armor is already nerfed compare to real life values so why would you go and nerf the gun handling as well?

the BMPT shreds the type 10 frontally so I’ve noticed more people bringing the oplot instead. Imagine if Japan didn’t get the oplot and were stuck with type 10/tkx against the BMPT. Crazy

Meanwhile I refused to grind OPLOT and hunting those pesky BMPT’s in my Type-10/TKX be like:

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That also decreases your max elevation/depression angle so when you drive down from a hill with “additional depression” all you can shoot is worms. And cant get your guns on any flying threats. Also keep in mind that adjusting suspension requires you to spend some time standing still. Not something you can do mid fights. I have played kpz70 and bmp3 so I know how it works.

They arent. Especially elevation speed. You can check out t72b3, t90m, t80bvm, leo2 and see acceptable rates.

Since TKX doesn’t have any sort of proxy round it’ll be waste of time to engage air units with main cannon.

It takes couple seconds which is not game breaking since you should be already on good flanking position.

This guy told me to check my most played tanks lmao.

Those are not acceptable rates, those are perfect values and not everyone has access to them.not to mention Russian top tier tanks should be stuck with 5 degree elevation speed like premium T-80U-E1 because of using same FCS but Gaijin refuses to fix it.

I constantly play with tanks that has worse elevation speeds or similiar values so its more than acceptable.

As I’ve said before don’t make hard claims about a vehicle that you don’t own.

Even more disadvantages

Adjust it for one position, then adjust it to change position, then adjust it for another position. While stuff like abrams can always have their gun on target. You really dont see the issue?

That doesnt really justify type 10 elevation speed values being one of worst at top tier.

Oh yes I cant say vehicle X is good or bad because I dont own it. Its not like I have played better vehicles and can compare their parameters with type 10 values and make conclusions. By your logic, I cant claim kh38mt is best agm because I dont own any kh38mt slinger. Cant claim t90m is inferior to t80bvm because I dont own t90m.

They can buff the Type 10 now… look at how OP those BMPT are.

Despite their nerfs they perform well enough according to statistics so Gaijin will most likely not gonna buff them anytime soon.

also type 10





fastest reload of any top tier mbt fastest reverse of any top tier mbt best thermal gen reload and round at top tier of any mbt 2 tkx back up vehicles all with LWS gen 3 and 4 second reloads and 1 tkx with type 10 round too vs someone who doesn’t know to to play the type 10

and yes i also have t90m and let me tell you i prefer adaptability over just having good armour with no other benefits

Cosplaying rock wow. Abrams can do same without having to mess with suspension every time you get into position or change it.

The only big advantage. Tho abrams and leclerc have 5s which is still 2nd best reload. Both of them have those reload rates since 10.7 and 11.0 btw (m1 abrams and msc).

Other nato tanks have fine reverse speed and leclercs have almost identical hp/t ratio (while others have slightly worse values)

Okay but its not really helpful. 2a7hu also has 1200x800 thermal btw.

Its called m829a2 which can be found on 12.0-12.7 abrams

And there are backup abramses with better armor, better gun handling, better round and extra crew mate which improves survivability. 3 strv 122 with better armor, gun handling and extra crew mate. Those are pretty much major advantages unlike bit higher thermals resolution yknow. Add to that fact that you can utilize those advantages at 10.7, 11.3, 11.7 (or even 9.0) on earlier abrams models.

T80bvm exists if you want “other benefits” in your soviet lineup btw.

Or the 2S25M if you want to larp as a cardboard box with a cannon and 3rd Gen Thermals

t80bvm is a disgrace of a tank IRL and in game doesn’t even have CITV a 2017 tank btw. Bro yapping because his russian funny how literally every pro player likes the type 10. meanwhile safest t80 series send its crew to space

6s reload vs 7s on t90m, higher hp/t than on t90m and 11 km/h reverse speed vs -4 km/h on t90m. Id take that over citv tbh

You are making things up it seems

And on tournaments pro players use abrams, leclercs or leo 2

Abrams doesnt do that. Also hey, at least t series can take a hit to a turret without exploding entire tank. Type 10 can be penned and ammoracked by hitting turret from front. And hull if you have some ammo outside autoloader.

I feel like all the photos of Japans infantry I’ve seen, they’ve always be Aura farming.

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As someone who has the type 10 spaded and the t-80uk less that half spaded, id prefer the t-80 anyday. The type 10 has been butched since launch and should be fixed