its a big stretch between a lowly armored Leo 1s and T-62s and the modern-style heavy armored T-64/T-72 and Merkava 1/Challenger 1
well its base is oldschool so.
Still, its the first APS system that was deployed iirc which according to his claim it should make T-55 at least 3rd gen.
Where’d you get that, lmao
Medium tank is not an MBT. T-80UK doesn’t have electronical warfare or APS, it has optic-electrical supression system
sounds same to me
as much as i know, US counts it as MBT. USSR also has it under the name of MBT.
it did not. The T-64 was the first MBT.
The US is the US, they have their own system
well. It has strong frontal armor, good mobility, modern style universal cannon. All traits of MBT
Yes they did. The GRAU lists it as one, as much as several instructions
so then what`s the GENs about then? If its not universal, its debatable.
electronical warfare is something more about extensive interactivity with allied units using latest tech, hunter-killer system and so on.
As a concept of modern warfare yes, it is much more wide than that.
I don’t even know how it functions, and they are not certain by themselves.
IIRC, for them Centurion is 1st gen MBT, AMX 30 and Leopard are 2nd gen, T-72/Abrams/Leclerc are 3rd, and K2/T-14 are 4th. But they do not ever state what exactly differs them. Centurion is no different from later T-62, the latter is just more advanced of what former already has. That’s why them classifying common WW2-tech tanks as a new class is something illogical.
Soviet-Russian system starting with composite protection, then dynamic protection, then active protection, as well as other features, is more efficient.
Basic K2 is no different from Leclerc, only now there are talks about KAPS (Korean APS) that they can’t acquire, but for them, it is 4th gen. Oh yeah here we go, they classified them without a single source: List of main battle tanks by generation - Wikipedia
I need to correct myself. First years of production the T-62 is considered a Medium Tank by the USSR. Then later in production was re-classified as Main Battle Tank. The same as happened with M26 Pershing, but for a different reason
So thats why some claim that first gen of MBTs are Centurion, M60 and T-55. They already wield the traits that MBTs are known for.
this classificatons are up to who uses them, as there is no universal classification everyone agrees on as i know
with a team of few people I wanted to make an article on where does the generation concept comes from and what would be truly defining each generation, except… dont know where to start, even. Guess the history of tanks changing classes from medium tanks to MBTs will be a starting point
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If you don’t believe that Shtora is an APS, I think we’re done with our conversation here.
Even smoke dischargers coupled with LWR is defined as an APS, let alone active dazzlers.
Took knowledge about tanks from AI, I swear.
How is it the worst one?