Two Classes of 12.0 MBTs and the Leopard 2A5/2A6/2 PSO Belong to Neither

Only the turret cheeks which they’re obvious enough to ignore and shoot at the turret ring.

They’re absolutely the best to flank with, low unhearable engine, unpenetrable hull incase of someone tried to do a quick shot your ERA can eat it easy, just hold W, fast and it doesn’t lose speed upon turning around.

You’re side on to an autocannon vehicle, #1 mistake. The turret ring should be fixed however it won’t change anything against full calibre APFSDS,

If you’re dying to 10.3 vehicles idk what to tell you, and otherwise its stock vehicles. M774 can LFP the T-90M and BVM, and 3BM42 can also kill the 2A7 frontally.

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You’re obviously incapable of shooting the weakspots of Russian tanks then.

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Where did i stated such situation?

This can also happen while being peeked frontally btw.

I stated the round’s average br placement, not a specific vehicle. The best protected american, (some) german, british, israeli tanks at 12.0 can be 1shot through its hull protection by a 10.3 round. That doesn’t happen the other way around and that was the main point: the current advantage is artificial and holds no use to skew logic and doctrines to an artificially ‘balanced’ environment. You’re being tragically disingenuous and you know it.

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When did i say that? I stated an obvious fact and you can’t prove me wrong, but go ahead and post meme pics from your gallery, typical Russian main.

For the record, i’m not a Russian main. I have top tier in every nation except China.

Then you’d know that the T80BVM,T90M are better than the SEP,V2 and they shouldn’t be at the same BR.

Infact if you give Gen 1 thermals and remove the M829A2 from the SEPV1,V2,M1A2, they’d be worse than the base M1.

Any tank in the game can be 1 shot by a 10.3 round. Ive simply stated that the only advantage of Russian tanks is armor, which does not make up for the lack of mobility, depression, reload, etc. The T-90M is a skillcheck vehicle, the BVM is a decent all-rounder which is inferior to the Abrams.

They should be.

What kind of statement is this?

but not frontally, such as many of the nations tanks i stated. The exception for the mantlet is curiously, Russia/USSR.

can agree to some extent.

If an MBT is better than the 2A6, then it’s better than 99% of the current M1A2s in the game.
so no.

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It’s a statement that proves that the SEPV1,V2 are worse than the base M1 in armor capability and they sit at higher with penetrable hull and weaker turret ring, remove thermals,dart, then they’re not worth 12.0 at all.

M1’s turret cheek is shot through by 3BM42. Doesn’t happen with 3BM60 against the M1A2.

Oh the classic 2 pixel driver port hit argument, ain’t that convenient. As if, idk, ANY nation has that type of weakspot around the driver’s port/turret ring?

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Whoever aims for turret cheeks got a major skill issue when there’s a huge weakspot called “Turret ring”.

Again they suffer from major issues that makes the turret cheeks useless.

Man i’ve seen so many russian/german and even a couple of french players hitting the turret cheeks AFTER the changes in the turret basket, it’s so cringe to realize you’re alive when it’s easier to be hit than to resist on an Abrams.

Then you hit a nailspot hit to cook a T-80BVMs ammo and the coping madman says ‘xDDDDD reported’

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Whoever aims for the most armored part of a Russian tank got a major skill issue when there’s multiple weakspots called the driver’s port, LFP, and breach.

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Yeah, there is. Also the driver’s port is not hard to hit XD.

It’s not hard to hit, but in reality it barely ever gets breach/kills both turret crew/cooks ammo/gets horizontal-vertical, out of any of those scenarios, you never get a single one at all.
WARNING: If you quote your picture to dismiss what i said, you should consider that you aimed the M774 from elevation, and that changes the spalling pattern. Refrain from doing so.

If you don’t hit it with a competitive, top tier round, it’s a wasted shot 80% of the time.

That can’t be said with the Abrams neck, or the pre-2A7 hull, or the suffering minor nations hull.

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You still dont get it, don’t ya.

When you shoot the breach at the Abrams you take out the breach, 2 crew, engine, basket.

When you shoot the breach at the T80BVM you take out the breach, 1 crew.

See the huge difference?

Let’s not get started about how Gaijin still did not add DU to the turret cheeks and they should be better in KE protection.

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