Then you’d know that the T80BVM,T90M are better than the SEP,V2 and they shouldn’t be at the same BR.
Infact if you give Gen 1 thermals and remove the M829A2 from the SEPV1,V2,M1A2, they’d be worse than the base M1.
Any tank in the game can be 1 shot by a 10.3 round. Ive simply stated that the only advantage of Russian tanks is armor, which does not make up for the lack of mobility, depression, reload, etc. The T-90M is a skillcheck vehicle, the BVM is a decent all-rounder which is inferior to the Abrams.
They should be.
What kind of statement is this?
but not frontally, such as many of the nations tanks i stated. The exception for the mantlet is curiously, Russia/USSR.
can agree to some extent.
If an MBT is better than the 2A6, then it’s better than 99% of the current M1A2s in the game.
so no.
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It’s a statement that proves that the SEPV1,V2 are worse than the base M1 in armor capability and they sit at higher with penetrable hull and weaker turret ring, remove thermals,dart, then they’re not worth 12.0 at all.
M1’s turret cheek is shot through by 3BM42. Doesn’t happen with 3BM60 against the M1A2.
Oh the classic 2 pixel driver port hit argument, ain’t that convenient. As if, idk, ANY nation has that type of weakspot around the driver’s port/turret ring?
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Whoever aims for turret cheeks got a major skill issue when there’s a huge weakspot called “Turret ring”.
Again they suffer from major issues that makes the turret cheeks useless.
Man i’ve seen so many russian/german and even a couple of french players hitting the turret cheeks AFTER the changes in the turret basket, it’s so cringe to realize you’re alive when it’s easier to be hit than to resist on an Abrams.
Then you hit a nailspot hit to cook a T-80BVMs ammo and the coping madman says ‘xDDDDD reported’
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Whoever aims for the most armored part of a Russian tank got a major skill issue when there’s multiple weakspots called the driver’s port, LFP, and breach.
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Yeah, there is. Also the driver’s port is not hard to hit XD.
It’s not hard to hit, but in reality it barely ever gets breach/kills both turret crew/cooks ammo/gets horizontal-vertical, out of any of those scenarios, you never get a single one at all.
WARNING: If you quote your picture to dismiss what i said, you should consider that you aimed the M774 from elevation, and that changes the spalling pattern. Refrain from doing so.
If you don’t hit it with a competitive, top tier round, it’s a wasted shot 80% of the time.
That can’t be said with the Abrams neck, or the pre-2A7 hull, or the suffering minor nations hull.
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You still dont get it, don’t ya.
When you shoot the breach at the Abrams you take out the breach, 2 crew, engine, basket.
When you shoot the breach at the T80BVM you take out the breach, 1 crew.
See the huge difference?
Let’s not get started about how Gaijin still did not add DU to the turret cheeks and they should be better in KE protection.
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Han shot first statement.
This should have ended the conversation lol L2K/VT1-2 ARE THE STRONGEST SHOOT THAT WEAK SHPT
It has been very consistent for me.
I am factoring the height difference between the 2 tanks.
lol no? You’re adding like 1 1/2 meter when it’s barely taller for CQB conventions?
And this whole driver ports frontal weakspot it’s absolutely besides the point. NATO tanks as a whole are weaker and less protected than Russian tanks to the point even a 10.ish tank can reliably pen their hulls anywhere and achieve pens, the USSR/Russian tanks being the only exception to that.
I get it, you like russian stuff but defending this while moving the goalposts and false equivalences is fairly beyond the convincing side of this conversation.
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The breach only takes out the breach and some crew members (1-2).
The breach on the BVM takes out the breach and maybe a crew member.
If you shoot the BVM’s driver’s port, it dies.
If you shoot the Abrams’ driver’s port, it dies.
Anyways, I am not going to continue this argument. I have stated my points, and I don’t feel its worth it to argue with someone that is incapable of playing the Abrams family after over 4500 games in the thing.
I shall stop my participation on this conversation right on that quote.
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