Yeah its definitely more difficult but not impossible. BVM heavily relies on you not stopping and moving around. Also, if you do hit a Relikt plate and get the chance to shoot again (say he’s breached), you will completely lolpen the turret once that Relikt is shot off.
the space between the Abrams turret and its chassis is worse than the t-80bmv turret because the t-80 is clearly smaller, I finished the 3 nations (Germany, America, Russia) and clearly the Abrams armor was clearly the worst besides the apfsds shells often tend to bounce off the plate inclined at 82° to pierce the underside of the Abrams turret.
now concerning the t-80bvm and strv 122 shells they do not need to pierce more because the majority of tanks have an over-armored turret even for the best shells and a chassis with less than 550mm except for the tanks that I had mentioned having good armor
Gramih, I’ve studied the T-series and accounted for turret size.
I get your concerns though.
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A better map of the Abrams (made like 4-5 months ago):
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By talking about the Abrams you mean the SEPV1,V2 which they’re absolutely inferior to the BVM,T90M in armor category (SEPV2 is more fat thanks to the unremovable TUSK which makes it lack in mobility) so Top Tier Abrams going to be much better next to the Merks,Leclerc…etc
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They’re better. Skill issue.
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How are they better? What matters in Top Tier is armor and they’re definitely better in that category.
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Better depression, mobility, round, turret armor (vs BVM), reload, etc.
Russian tanks only have armor.
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Bait used to be believable.
Abrams armour is not bad. american players sucked ass for so long that everyone learned how to kill them on autopilot, no different to the tiger 2 at 6.7
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Which is the one that matters the most in Top Tier???
Abrams starting from the M1A2 suck and garbage.
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Remove DM53 and Leo2A5 will make itself back to t90a’s 11.0 for inability to stay better than a Fuji xDDD
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Only necessary on maps with relevant amounts of hills or depressions. Definitely could be worked around.
Only decent weakness out of any you mentioned, though it gets traded by noticeably better armor than the average MBT in the game.
Even if there was some new and convenient prototype Russian round, why would the soviets need a better round than (EVEN) 3BM46 when most of NATO hulls can’t even withstand more than 450mm KE darts to do significant damage or just 1shot Challys, Merkavas, Arietes, and Abrams (or disabling them which is practically the same)?
Soviets doesn’t need a better reload when their darts —even if they’re subpar— can pen as butter to most of MBTs?
Armor on a CQB-reliant map rotation is basically a push-to-win button.
Lots of convenient rationalizations, not even a single honest on its proper context.
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A combination of speed and armor with good gun depression. Hence why the Strvs and Leos stomped. Just armor does not make a tank strong, its why the T-90M is stinker. BVM is still a good tank, however Abrams is better.
Thats a you problem.
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Which the SEPV2 lacks thanks to the unremovable TUSK.
Not anymore after the basket nerf.
A good combination between Armor and a superior lineup that Russia gets, Pantsir,SU30SM,SU34…etc which most nations lack.
Abrams is definitely not better than the BVM,T90M, in Top Tier the only thing that matter is who shot first, a single shot from any tank would kill or disable an Abrams (i’ve tried that myself when i started grinding in GRB with the SU39)
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The Abrams and Leo are best played in a hull-down fashion, just like how the BVM is best played in an urban environment. The difference is that the BVM cannot do hull-down combat while the Abrams and Leo can do urban combat. Sure there are spots where you can go hull-down in the BVM but the lack of depression is a very big drawback.
Which is the entire niche of a Russian tank? Better armor.
This can be said for a lot of the rounds in the game. The difference between 7.1s and 6.5s 3BM60 and 5.3s M829A2 is massive.
Not really. Its an advantage however its not an autowin.
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Shoot behind yourself to boost the SEPV2 and it will accelerate the same as SEP. Its not a big difference. I would welcome removable TUSK on it.
Funny guy, they still absolutely stomp. I’ve extensively played the Leos and they are still unfair tanks.
Abrams will shoot first due to better ability to get into position if you want to go through that route.
Can be said on the Ariete too when they get a 5.3 sec reload with DM53, that means they’re better than the T90M,T80BVM?
Which wouldn’t matter at all if your tank gets disabled super easy.
The basket nerfed NATO tanks especially the Abrams, 2A7,B+ were already good and they’re decent now, but the Abrams was already bad enough and now its worse.
T80s get better speed, they always reach the A point first and they’re the best tanks to use to flank that means they position better before the Abrams.
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Does the Ariete have any armor to speak of? No, however the Abrams does.
Don’t rely on armor, learn to play to your tank’s advantages. The Abrams has good turret armor, which means if you really want to rely on armor play hull-down.
I don’t agree with the basket changes for the record.
I do have this chart, however it does not include the M1A2, which we can test if you want.
And no, the T-80’s are not the best flanking tank, that belongs to something that doesn’t have a 6.5s reload.
That same fashion the map rotation arguably negates by placing 1/3 of CQB maps, 1/3 of clustered nature maps like Vietnam and 1/3 of large maps which can be played while hull down, though are by no means paired terms (e.g large Tunisia).
The T-80BVM can arguably do some (mediocre but still able bc of its better reverse speed) hull-down.
While losing vert/horizontal/stabilizer to a single 30mm round with the new baskets, top notch CQB.
The difference between withstanding M829A2/DM53 in your mantlet and not being able to resist 10.3 3BM46 in your hull IS massive as well, and its worse because you’re given less margin for commiting mistakes for a marginal ceiling that only a handful of people is allegedly able to exploit.
That ends my allegation, your honor.
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Only the turret cheeks which they’re obvious enough to ignore and shoot at the turret ring.
They’re absolutely the best to flank with, low unhearable engine, unpenetrable hull incase of someone tried to do a quick shot your ERA can eat it easy, just hold W, fast and it doesn’t lose speed upon turning around.