Turkish tech tree

[MTF-Midway]

But when I really think about it, the 2024 remake produced by Israel feels kind of unexpected.

Whether it’s the Israeli version or the Turkish version, I can’t wait to see it.

[urmom_xD]

not as relevant for the time being also still mostly copypaste, let alone azerbaijan lmfao.

[LiberterianTurc]

Yeah israel and sweden are extremely relevant ur right(!)

we turkish players want the tree also its nothing near copypaste, you guys are all talking about copypaste but when it comes to real irrelevant trees you are silent like a kitten, we want azerbaijan not because its extremely revelant because it would add some good east block content for turkish tree, if you want to see copypaste and you will cry about it like this you can check all of european and israeli trees which are full of copypasting

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@MTF-Midway

Israel has many T-72s that aren’t just copy-and-paste clones

They are still T-72’s, look like them, would play like them, nothing of value.

[lLiberté]

@LiberterianTurc

Continued omission of Turkey’s independent lineup—while prioritizing minor copy-paste subtrees—risks alienating a massive and dedicated portion of your player base, including myself and many long-time supporters.

@the_power_of_WT

I suggest adding Türkiye as a nation because it has a large variety of domestically produced and modified NATO vehicles in it’s vehicle fleet

First and foremost I highly suggest you to check Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree and Helicopter Tech Tree suggestion posts. We are also working on Aviation Tech Tree suggestion which is pretty much completed but requires few adjustments.

Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree

Turkish Helicopter Tech Tree

@the_power_of_WT

ok, but other countries can still work

Only other countries that can work are Azerbaijan in some extent and Kazakhstan, rest does not have any meaningful connection with Turkey or Turkish Army Industry. Other than your list there are few other nation which could provide few vehicles such as Indonesia, Malaysia, United Arab Emirates and Morocco.

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So let me briefly summarise how we look into how Sub-Branch implemented within Turkish Tech, especially Ground Forces. We do have a Sub-Branch suggestion within main post:

it mostly consists of Kazakhstan with a single Azerbaijani vehicle addition. Sure current way of implementation of Gaijin provides a lot more flexibility, we can add vehicles such as T-72 Aslan and Aslan (2024) or BTR-80. Thing is Tree would not benefit from them really, we try to stick with the vehicles connected with Turkey and Turkish Industry. For the aviation side however, we are planning to be more flexible to include stuff like JF-17 and such.

@somebody_Else

The sub tree ideas are copy-paste

May above Sub-Tree suggestion change your mind on that matter mate.

[MTF-Midway]

Sure, their performance is similar, but these guys are equipped with Israeli shells (M711), Israeli electronics (TITAS), and Israeli armor (Shygys), right?

The way they’ve evolved and their lifestyle fit perfectly into the tech tree.
This lineup would be ideal for a country like Israel, which is modernizing both its Eastern and Western military equipment.

[lLiberté]

@urmom_xD

literally proves his point on how the tree will be israel 2.0 aka mostly copypaste

@urmom_xD

not to mention it offers even LESS stuff then Israel lmfao
dude, buddy. give it up. turkey cant make its own tree

@lLiberté

Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree

Sure sure.

[PlayedStatue626-live]

@LiberterianTurc

but let me talk about a real weak connection, they want to put azerbaijani and greek vehicles in israel tree

Haven’t seen anything about Azerbaijan going to Israel. The Greeks however have worked with Israel quite a bit.

You could add the ZKDM, ZSU-23-4M-P and Gusar for Azerbaijan and the T-72UMG for Turkmenistan.

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[JamesPond1200-psn]

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There is also an Azeri upgrade to the MT-LB which turns it into a sort of MLRS with S-5 or S-8 rockets, but I haven’t suggested it yet as I need more info.

[AspandaIV]

The Azeri’s also modified their BDRM-2’s to carry the UB-16 or 32 rocketpods. The former being the same ones found on the Somailand FIAT-6616. There’s a similar modification done by the Afghans except they retain the KPV-T HMG while the Azeri counterpart doesn’t seem to have it.

I hadn’t found much info on it except it saw service in the 1990’s during the First Artshakh War. So maybe looking there and you may find your Azeri MT-LB MLRS there.

This is the sole image I can find online of said BDRM-2 with the Rocket pod. UB-32 more specifically

[the_power_of_WT]

No offense but it is called the 1st Karabakh war

[C_A_S_S_I_E4]

Hello Gaijin Entertainment,

I would like to suggest adding a Turkish research tree to War Thunder.

Türkiye has a very interesting military aviation and ground vehicle history, with many unique vehicles developed domestically as well as vehicles produced under license or significantly modernized over the years.

A Turkish research tree could include aircraft such as the F-5, F-16, F-4E, F-104, T-38 and the upcoming KAAN, as well as various Turkish-developed and modernized ground vehicles such as the Altay, M60T Sabra, modernized M60s, Leopard 2A4T and other indigenous vehicles.

Türkiye’s military history and its combination of Western, locally developed, and modernized equipment could make a Turkish tree very unique and interesting for War Thunder players.

I believe a Turkish research tree would also attract many new players from Türkiye and give existing players another interesting nation to explore.

Please consider this suggestion for a future War Thunder update.

Thank you for your time and for continuing to improve War Thunder!

[bozkurt5535Y]

Why Türkiye Deserves to Be War Thunder’s 11th Nation

Building perfectly upon the great summary above, we need to emphasize that the upcoming Turkish Aviation Tech Tree is exactly what War Thunder currently needs to break the repetitive ‘top-tier jet meta’.

While some critics prematurely call it a ‘copy-paste’ concept, a deeper look into the actual operational history and domestic modernizations completely shatters this claim. This tree offers a highly dynamic, unique gameplay experience by blending Western airframes with indigenous tech and an Eastern-Block/Turkic hybrid Sub-tree (such as Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan) .

Here is how the Turkish Aviation Tree provides an entirely fresh and unique meta for players:

1. Breaking the Meta with Asymmetric Warfare (The HÜRKUŞ Factor)

Veteran players are tired of flying identical top-tier jets for thousands of hours. Türkiye introduces a completely new doctrine with the HÜRKUŞ-C (Light Attack/COIN Turboprop) . Sitting around Rank V-VI, this aircraft shifts the balance in Ground RB:

• Its low-altitude and low-speed flight profile could make it significantly harder to detect and engage compared to conventional aircraft.
• It carries domestic smart anti-tank munitions like L-UMTAS and CİRİT (Laser-Guided Missiles) , allowing players to hunt top-tier main battle tanks from behind hills and treelines, creating a gameplay style closer to a precision light-attack platform than a conventional fighter.

2. The Ultimate ‘East-West’ Hybrid Sub-Tree (Solving the Copy-Paste Issue)

By adopting a flexible approach for the aviation side, we can integrate specific aircraft from brotherly nations that carry deep Turkish industrial fingerprints. The absolute crown jewel of this concept is the Azerbaijani Su-25ML ‘Laçın’ :

• This is a Soviet Su-25 airframe extensively modernized by TUSAŞ .
• It combines a Soviet airframe with Turkish modernization and Turkish-made precision weapons such as SOM cruise missiles and TEBER smart guidance kits , creating one of the most unusual weapon-platform combinations that could be introduced to War Thunder.
• Combined with Azerbaijan’s heavily upgraded MiG-29 variants or potential Turkic operators’ JF-17 blocks , the tree can cover the Eastern-Block air superiority gap while giving players aircraft with meaningful differences in weapons, avionics and gameplay — rather than simply adding identical copy-paste vehicles.

3. Domestically Re-engineered Giants & Top Tier

When players reach the modern eras (Rank VII-IX), they won’t just see standard F-16s or F-4s. They will fly deeply re-engineered and modernized platforms:

• F-4E Terminator 2020: One of the most heavily modernized Phantom variants, featuring advanced avionics and long-range AGM-142 Popeye standoff capabilities.
• F-16 Block 40/50/70 (Viper): Carrying an expanding family of indigenous Turkish air-to-air weapons such as GÖKTUĞ, BOZDOĞAN, GÖKDOĞAN, and GÖKHAN (Ramjet) .
• HÜRJET & KAAN: The ultimate culmination of Türkiye’s transition toward indigenous combat aircraft, with KAAN serving as a potential future top-tier platform and the crown jewel of the tree.

This is not an ‘Israel 2.0’. This is a self-sufficient, combat-proven military ecosystem that bridges the West and the East with unique modifications, indigenous weapons and highly anticipated future platforms.

Türkiye has the aircraft, the modernization programs, the indigenous weapons, and the technological progression necessary to stand on its own.

It is time for Türkiye to become **War Thunder’s 11th independent nation.

[THEPolishThunder]

nice chat gpt

[bozkurt5535Y]

Glad you liked the formatting, but feel free to counter the actual facts about TUSAŞ modernizations, HÜRKUŞ-C, or domestic avionics if you can find any errors. Back to the topic?

[ByLunaci]

It’s a shame we still don’t have our own tree, while other Turkish vehicles are coming to other trees.

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Kaplan MT War Thunder’da! Endonezya’nın Harimau Tankı

[AspandaIV]

At the very least it’s a start. And Indonesia did play a significant role in the development of the Harimau so it makes sense that it would (technically) be the first Domestic/Co-Developed Turkish vehicle to be added.

[GOLD-EAGLE]

Türkiye deserves its own tech tree! 🇹🇷 A unique military history, indigenous vehicles, aircraft, and decades of innovation. Give Türkiye the place it deserves in War Thunder!

[urmom_xD]

Israel 2.0 but even less to offer

Not saying it shouldnt be added at all.
It’s just not TT material.

[Hp_Hyper]

You can’t call it Israel 2.0. At least we have more domestically produced vehicles than Israel, and that alone puts us far ahead of them. That’s more than enough.