Spoiler Tech Tree
Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree
Thunder in the Sky, Tanker on the Ground
We have been working on finding a proper solution for implementation of Turkish Tech Tree to War Thunder and now with the addition of Israeli Tech Tree Gaijin gave us best possible way to work on. After the initial release of Israeli TT, I have started working on my own project but it was rather sloppy and nowhere near of being a proper tech tree. After sometime finally found people who also were working on their own, and with our collective efforts here we are now presenting first refined version of our Turkish Tech Tree Project, lo and behold:
Description
The Turkish Tech Tree consists of 5 research branches just like any other tech tree in the game. We have focused on including in-service vehicles to Research Section as much as we can but to fill the gaps we took the liberty of adding prototypes, demonstrators, test-bed and some one-off vehicles so it safe to say the tech tree is mixture of in-service (or ex-service) vehicles and prototypes. Of course we reserved most of the prototypes/one-off vehicles to Premium Section, tried our best to not hinder the research section from any unique or interesting vehicles. Vehicles within the tree consists of combination of unique, modified or outright copy-paste vehicles, we do now that and uniqueness might be relative term, so please do not start any heat about this matter.
Currently the Premium Section of the Tech Tree has four branches (its not like the number of branches are important), but in this version vehicles within fourth branches will not be revealed as we are still trying to work on them, we got some unique ideas about those vehicles and will be related one finalised.
For the time being, tech tree starts from Rank IV, much like Israeli counterpart, and has vehicles all the way down to the Rank VII and there are plans to move some vehicles up to Rank VIII once Gaijin introduces Rank VIII to Ground Forces. You should note that, tech tree is not finalised yet, some vehicles might be added, removed or moved within tech tree. Also more important note, take the BR arrangement of the vehicles with a grain (maybe with a pack ? lol) of salt since some of those vehicles are pretty modern machines and their specifications are classified (do not worry I’m not willing to leak any documents I swear) or do not have proper counterparts to decide fitting BR. You are very welcomed to states your opinion about BRs of vehicles as well as overall Tech Tree.
The Tech Tree
As I’ve stated, tech tree consists of two main sections; Research and Premium (just like any other conventional trees), I’ll provide photographs of vehicles, maybe a brief info and relevant suggestions links if they are exists.
Research Section
Light Vehicle Branch
ACV-15 (Dragar) - 7.0
ACV-15 with Nexter Systems’ Dragar one-man turret armed with 25mm auto cannon. There are many similar vehicles to fill this spot but ACV-15 (Dragar) is, what I believe, the most numerous IFV within Turkish Armed Forces thus made it the research tree.
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ACV-15 (NEFER) - 7.3
Pretty new modernisation of existing ACV-15s, with NEFER Unmanned Turret System armed with 25mm auto cannon. Currently in service.
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Arma 6x6 (LCTS 90MP) - 8.0
Otokar’s Arma 6x6 armed with Cockerill LCTS 90MP turret system. It is not in service and there is only one photograph from Otokar’s testing grounds.
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Kaplan-30 (TEBER) - 8.0
FNSS’ new generation IFV, Kaplan-30. Armed with FNSS TEBER remote controlled turret system with a 30mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Arma 6x6 (BOZOK-25) - 8.3
Otokar’s Arma 6x6 with BOZOK-25 one-man turret system, armed with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Arma 8x8 (CT-CV 105HP) - 9.0
Otokar’s Arma 8x8 with Cockerill CT-CV 105HP turret system. Currently not in service.
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Arma 8x8 (KORHAN) - 9.0
Otokar’s Arma 8x8 with ASELSAN KORHAN turret system armed with 35mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Tulpar Infantry Fighting Vehicle (MIZRAK-30) - 9.0
Otokar’s new generation IFV Tulpar with MIZRAK-30 unmanned turret system armed with 30mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Arma 8x8 (MIZRAK-30) - 9.3
Otokar’s Arma 8x8 with with MIZRAK-30 unmanned turret system armed with 30mm auto cannon and has ability to mount L-UMTAS ATGMs. Currently not in service.
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Tulpar Light Tank - 9.7
Otokar’s Tulpar Light Tank with Cockerill 3105 turret system armed with autoloader 105mm cannon. Currently not in service.
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Kaplan MMWT (Late) - 10.0
FNSS’ Kaplan Kaplan MMWT/Light Tank with Cockerill 3105 turret system armed with autoloader 105mm cannon. Currently not in service. This one is IDEF 2019 prototype with PULAT APS, neither 2017 prototype nor the production version has APS system.
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Main Battle Tank Branch - I
*This Branch starts with German made or supplied main battle tanks and followed by indigenous tank prototypes and upgrade packages.
M48A5C 2 - 7.3
American made M48A5C 2, acquired from Germany since other branch does not really need it, it seemed fit here. No modifications or upgrade, base version.
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M48T5 - 8.0
Turkish M48’s upgraded with the German packages in Turkey by 1st Main Maintenance Factory. Armed with L7A3 105mm cannon, pretty much M48A2 G A2 in Turkish service. Saw limited service.
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Leopard 1A1 - 8.3
Regular Leopard 1A1 in Turkish service.
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Leopard 1A3T1 - 8.7
Regular Leopard 1A3 except 1A3T1 is fitted with EMES-12A3 fire control system unlike 1A3s.
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Leopard 2A4TR - 10.0
Regular Leopard 2A4 in Turkish service, some sources dubs it as 2A4TR while some mention it as just 2A4. Currently in service.
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Leopard 2A4T1 - 11.0
Recent upgrade of existing Leopard 2A4s with ROKETSAN T1 Armor Package. Currently 40 vehicles being planned for this package, some delivered and in service.
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Leopard 2A4 (TIYK) - 11.3
On going modernisation project, no vehicle revealed yet. It is expected to be T1 with integrated with ASELSAN sub-systems and PULAT APS.
Altay PV1 - 11.3
First detailed prototype of Altay Main Battle Tank, produced and tested under Phase-I of MİTÜP. Currently under development.
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Altay PV2 (2017) - 11.3
Second detailed prototype of Altay Main Battle Tank, produced and tested under Phase-I of MİTÜP. This version showcased in IDEF 2017 and has modified gun mantlet different from when it was first revealed in 2015, also received MOCAS camouflage. Currently under development.
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Altay T1 (2019) - 11.7
BMC’s first iteration of T1 prototype, revealed in IDEF 2019. It received ASELSAN’s AKKOR APS and has additional armor. Currently under development.
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Altay T1 (2021) - 11.7
BMC’s second iteration of T1 prototype, revealed in IDEF 2021. It is fitted ASELSAN’s AKKOR APS and has additional armor. 2021 iteration’s turret design/turret armor scheme slightly redesigned. Currently under development.
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Main Battle Tank Branch - II
*This Branch starts with American made or supplied main battle tanks and followed by indigenous tank prototypes and upgrade packages.
M41 - 6.0 (Reserve)
Regular M61 in Turkish service. Some 100 M41s supplied to Turkey between 1959 and 1960.
M47 - 7.3
Regular M47 in Turkish service.
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M48A1 - 7.3
Regular M48A1 in Turkish service.
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M48A5T1 - 8.0
Turkish M48’s upgraded with the American packages in Turkey by 1st Main Maintenance Factory. Armed with M68E1 105mm cannon, received new M19 fire-control system, passive night vision, AVDS-1790-2C RISE diesel engine and fitted with M19 cupola. In storage, some used as training vehicles.
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M48A5T2 - 8.3
Further upgrade of M48A5T2s Turkey by 1st Main Maintenance Factory. Its M19 fire-control system upgraded to M21, received laser range finder and TTS thermal sights. Also M19 cupolas are changed with low-visibility ones. Currently in limited service.
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M60A1 RISE - 8.3
Regular M60A1 in Turkish service. In storage, some used as training vehicles.
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M60A3 TTS - 8.7
Regular M60A3 TTS in Turkish service. Currently in service.
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M60A3T1 - 9.3
M60A3T1 (not an official designation) was a modernisation project. It received additional armor and ASELSAN sub-system but retains its 105mm cannon. It greatly resembles M60T in its shape. At least two prototypes were built and tested but due to unsatisfactory results, package was cancelled.
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M60A3 (TIYK) - 9.7
On going modernisation project, no vehicle revealed yet. Severals options for this package, will be updated with the reveal of the vehicle.
M60T - 10.0
Extensive modernisation of Turkish M60A1 with the cooperation of IMI and 2nd Main Maintenance Center Command. M60A1 received IMI MG253 120mm L/44 cannon, a new armor package and much powerful engine. Currently in service, upgraded to M60TM standard.
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M60TM - 10.0
M60TM Main Battle Tank is further modernization of M60T with the experiences gained from Operation Euphrates Shield (Fırat Kalkanı Harekatı). Under the modernisation, M60T’s received numerous ASELSAN made sub-systems including; LWR, Close Range Surveillance System, SARP Remote Controlled Weapon Station and TEPES Telescopic Periscope System. Some units received PULAT APS while some not, both versions are in service and used in operations.
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M60TM (PULAT) - 10.3
M60TM Main Battle Tank is further modernization of M60T with the experiences gained from Operation Euphrates Shield (Fırat Kalkanı Harekatı). Under the modernisation, M60T’s received numerous ASELSAN made sub-systems including; LWR, Close Range Surveillance System, SARP Remote Controlled Weapon Station and TEPES Telescopic Periscope System. Some units received PULAT APS while some not, both versions are in service and used in operations.
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M60TM (TIYK) - 10.7
On going modernisation project, no vehicle revealed yet. It is said to receive either new armor package or change aging armor units and serial integration of VOLKAN-M fire control system. Probably PULAT will be integrated remaining vehicles which did not received them initially.
Altay AHT - 11.7
Altay AHT is the urban-warfare version of Altay and one of the last prototypes ever developed by Otokar. It received additional armor, smoke launchers and a dozer blade. Although it lacks AKKOR APS, it appears to be even more heavily armored than BMC’s T1s. Currently under development.
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Anti-Aircraft Branch - II
M42A1 - 4.7
Regular M42A1 in Turkish service. In limited service.
Cobra I 4x4 (20mm/P20) - 6.0
Otokar Cobra I 4x4 with NEXTER P20 remote controlled weapon platform. Currently not in service.
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Ejder Yalçın 4x4 (SARP-L) - 7.0
Nurol Makina’s Ejder Yalçın 4x4 with ASELSAN’s SARP-L remotely controlled stabilized weapon system armed with M134 Minigun and Cirri missiles. Currently not in service.
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Ejder YALÇIN 4x4 (TRAKON 30) - 8.0
Nurol Makina’s Ejder Yalçın 4x4 with UNIROBOTICS TRAKON 30 remotely controlled stabilized weapon system armed with 30mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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KORKUT - 8.3
KORKUT is a Turkish self-propelled anti-air gun with twin-35mm auto cannon. KORKUT is combination of FNSS’ ACV-AD platform and ASELSAN’s turret system. It has ability to fire 35mm ATOM Airburst Rounds. Currently in service.
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Zıpkın PMSS - 9.3
Zıpkın PMSS is Defender 130 with ASELSAN Zıpkın pedestal mounted stinger system. Currently in service.
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Atılgan PMSS - 9.7
Zıpkın PMSS is M113 with ASELSAN Atılgan pedestal mounted stinger system. Currently in service.
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There is also rare prototype, based on ACV-15 instead of M113.
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Vuran 4x4 (SUNGUR) - 10.0
BMC’s Vuran 4x4 with ROKETSAN SUNGUR air defence missile system. There is two version of it, one with 4-tubes and one with 6-tubes, both appears to be in operation service.
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HİSAR-A - 11.3
HİSAR-A is a short range air defence system based on FNSS’ ACV-AD platform. Currently in service.
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Tank Destroyer Branch
M36B2 - 5.7
Regular M36B2 in Turkish service.
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M44T - 6.7
Modernised M44 with 155mm cannon and MB 833 engine.
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M52T - 7.0
Modernised M44 with 155mm L/39 cannon, new fire control system, MB 833 engine and received fully enclosed turret.
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T-155 Fırtına I - 7.3
T-155 Fırtına is localised version of Korean K-9 Thunder self-propelled gun. Currently in service
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T-155 Fırtına II - 7.7
T-155 Fırtına II is modernised version of Fırtına I. It received fully electrical turret system, new fire control system and ASELSAN made RCWS. Currently in service.
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Cobra I 4x4 (TOW) - 7.7
Otokar Cobra I 4x4 with TOW ATGM launcher. Currently not in service.
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M113 (TOW) - 8.0
M113 (probably M113A3) armed with TOW ATGM launcher. Currently in service.
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ACV-15 (TUA) - 8.0
ACV-15 with TOW-Under-the-Armor ATGM system. Currently in service.
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ACV-19 LGM-V - 9.0
FNSS’ ACV-19 with ROKETSAN Dual-Cirit Pod armed with 8 Cirri missiles. Currently in service.
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Pars 4x4 ARCT - 10.0
FNSS’ Pars 4x4 platform with ARCT ATGM system. Pars 4x4 platform was chosen for Turkish Army’s STA (Weapon Carrier Vehicle) Tender alongside FNSS’ Kaplan platform. Currently in service. Problem with this vehicle, its top missile would be OMTAS ATGM which is a fire-and-forget missile. Currently in War Thunder there is only one example of such missile on a helicopter. I’m not sure how it would fare on a ground vehicle, considering slow speed of L-UMTAS currently in game, it might not be that overpowered. Considering more and more tanks with APS getting added, this could find its way to tech tree. Another option would be limiting this vehicle with Kornet-E missiles.
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Kaplan ARCT - 10.3
FNSS’ Kaplan-10 platform with ARCT ATGM system. Kaplan-10 platform was chosen for Turkish Army’s STA (Weapon Carrier Vehicle) Tender alongside FNSS’ Pro 4x4 platform. Currently in service. Problem with this vehicle, its top missile would be OMTAS ATGM which is a fire-and-forget missile. Currently in War Thunder there is only one example of such missile on a helicopter. I’m not sure how it would fare on a ground vehicle, considering slow speed of L-UMTAS currently in game, it might not be that overpowered. Considering more and more tanks with APS getting added, this could find its way to tech tree. Another option would be limiting this vehicle with Kornet-E missiles.
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Kaplan TMLS - 11.3
FNSS’ Kaplan-10 platform with ROKETSAN TMLS (Tactical Missile Launching System). TMLS, unlike ARCT, is a modular system and offers different armament options and combinations. TMLS has ability to carry and fire Cirit, OMTAS, UMTAS and L-UMTAS missiles in different configuration. System could be configured to carry 8x Cirit Missile, 4x Cirit & 2x OMTAS/L-UMTAS/UMTAS or 4 OMTAS/L-UMTAS/UMTAS. This vehicle also has same problem with ARCT platforms, fire-and-forget missiles. Solution is similar to above, Gaijin simply could lock fire-and-forget missile and allow system to be configured with only Cirit and L-UMTAS missiles. Currently in service.
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8x Cirit Configuration
4x Cirit & 2 OMTAS/L-UMTAS/UMTAS Configuration
All Three Configuration (First One, 4x OMTAS/L-UMTAS/UMTAS Configuration)
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Premium Section
First Branch
ACV-15 (DAF) - 7.0
ACV-15 with DAF one-man turret armed with 25mm auto cannon. It is another numerous IFV within TAF ranks, but I believe the one with Dragar turret being used more actively in these days. Currently in service.
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M47 (28. Mknz.P.Tüm.Tnk.Tb) - 7.3
It is essentially a regular M47 in Turkish Service. Since there was not many candidates for GE premium around this BR, I thought adding a famous divisional tank (like Italian ones) would be appropriate. I managed to trace this specific tank’s unit as much as I could. Tank is currently “preserved” as monument heights of Pentadaktylos/Beşparmak Dağları.
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Akrep IIe 4x4 (BOZOK-25) - 8.0
Otokar’s new generation Akrep 4x4 with fully electrical power pack, armed BOZOK-25 turret system with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Kaplan-20 (TEBER) - 8.0
FNSS’ Kaplan-20 platform with TEBER remote controlled turret system, armed with 30mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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M48A5T2 (MESH) - 8.0
M48A5T2 with improvised mesh armor around its turret. Again, an alternative premium since it appears to be one-off modification, it only makes sense as premium rather than giving such modification to all M48A5T2s.
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M60A3 (KELEBEK) - 8.7
M60A3 with an unusual modification. It has Kelebek/Butterfly anti-aircraft machine-gun mount (Twin M2) on top of the main gun. Several different vehicles received this modification but it appears there is no formal name for this modification. It also could be added as research vehicle replacing regular M60A3 TTS or folders under.
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Leopard 1T - 9.0
Modernisation of Leopard 1A1. Modernisation included new NVG “AN/AVS-2”, an indigenous fire control system “VOLKAN” and new stabilised line-of-sight periscope. Currently in service.
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Kaplan MMWT (Early) - 9.7
FNSS’ Kaplan Kaplan MMWT/Light Tank with Cockerill 3105 turret system armed with autoloader 105mm cannon. This one is IDEF 2017 prototype, it lacks active protection system and hull configuration is slightly different from production version. Currently not in service.
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M60TM (VOLKAN-M) - 10.3
M60TM fitted with new generation VOLKAN-M fire control system. This specific version is a test-bed for VOLKAN-M trials and best way to add an M60T as premium without really hindering the research tree.
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Altay PV2 (2015) - 11.3
Second detailed prototype of Altay Main Battle Tank, produced and tested under Phase-I of MİTÜP. This version showcased in IDEF 2015. Currently under development.
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Second Branch
ACV-15 (Sharpshooter) - 7.0
ACV-15 with Sharpshooter one-man turret armed with 25mm auto cannon. This version is tested, but not adopted, at least in great numbers.
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ACV-15 (Saber) - 7.0
ACV-15 with Saber one-man turre armed with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Ejder 6x6 (Dragar) - 7.7
Nurol Makine’s Ejder 6x6 with Dragar turret armed with 25mm auto cannon. Nurol withdrew Ejder 6x6 platform as their venture FNSS already had 6x6 platform. Currently not in service.
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RN-94 (Dragar) - 7.7
RN-94 is a Romanian-Turkish project. It greatly resembles BTR platform, and Bangladesh remains only user in ambulance configuration. Turkish side experimented with 25mm turret to turn it into an wheeled-IFV. It is armed with Drahar turret with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Pars 6x6 (PENÇE) - 8.0
FNSS’ Pars II 6x6 platform with ASELSAN’s experimental remotely controlled PENÇE/CLAW turret system armed with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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Pars 6x6 (SABER RCT) - 8.7
FNSS’ Pars III 6x6 platform with SABER RCT remotely controlled turret system armed with 25mm auto-cannon. Currently not in service.
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Pars IV 8x8 (TEBER-35) - 9.0
FNSS’ new generation wheeled vehicle Pars IV 8x8 with FNSS TEBER-35 remote controlled turret system with 35mm auto cannon. Currently not in service, will be competing in NG-IFV tender for TAF.
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Altuğ 8x8 (KORHAN) - 9.0
BMC’s new generation wheeled-vehicle with ASELSAN’s KORHAN turret system armed with 35mm auto cannon. Currently not in service, will be competing in NG-IFV tender for TAF.
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Tulpar-S (MLS) - 9.0
Otokar’s Tulpar-S platform with ASELSAN’s MLS turret system armed with OMTAS ATGM. Lost tender to FNSS’ Kaplan ARCT.
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Leopard 2A4 (ERA) - 10.3
Leopard 2A4 modernisation effort carried by BMC. It was seen once and no words came out of it again. It basically an Leopard 2A4 covered with ERA blocks. It would make great event vehicle.
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T-84-120 “Yatağan” - 10.7
Ukrainian T-84 modified to meet Turkish need in early 2000s. Lost the tender to Leopard 2A6EX.
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Leopard 2A4 (Armor Test Bed) - 11.0
An obscure Leopard 2A4 modernisation effort, there is not much known about it except few images and videos. It was probably cancelled due to weight issues, with the amount of additional armor it would be one of the best armored Leopard in game. Perfect vehicle as an event prize.
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Altay FTR - 11.0
Early prototype of Altay main battle tank. It was configured as firing test rig and conducted tests. It turret later said to be integrated into Leopard 2 in BMC’s modernisation effort.
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Leopard 2A4 (FTR Turret) - 11.7
One of BMC’s solutions to Leopard 2A4 modernisation. Its a modified Leopard 2A4 mated with Altay FTR’s turret. Degree of modernisation is unknown.
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Second Branch
ACV-NG - 7.0
ACV-19 with Bradley turret armed with 25mm auto cannon (no ATGMs) and dubbed as ACV-NG.
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ACV-19 (PENÇE) - 7.3
FNSS’ ACV-19 platform with ASELSAN’s experimental remotely controlled PENÇE/CLAW turret system armed with 25mm auto cannon. Currently not in service.
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ACV-19 (CSE 90LP) - 7.7
ACV-19 mated with Cockerill CSE 90LP turret system. It was offered to Philippines but was not accepted into service.
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Akrep IId 4x4 (CSE 90LP) - 8.3
Otokar’s new generation Akrep 4x4 with Diesel engine, armed with Cockerill CSE 90LP. Currently not in service.
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T-55 - 8.0
Single T-55 bought from Germany’s ex-DDR stocks for testing purposes.
ACV-19 (2K23) - 8.0
ACV-19 mated with 2K23 turret system (aka BMP-3 turret). It was offered to United Arab Emirates, there is no further information about the project.
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Rabdan 8x8 (2K23) - 8.7
Rabdan 8x8 is modified Arma 8x8 to meet needs of United Arab Emirates, some fitted with 2K23 turret system.
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M60 AMBT - 9.7
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Arma 8x8 (OMTAS) - 10.7
Otokar’s Arma 8x8 fitted with ROKETSAN’s OMTAS launcher. Currently not in service.
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Leopard 2 NG - 11.0
ASELSAN’s solution for Leopard 2A4 modernisation. Package included ASELSAN sub-systems as well as AMAP armor package. It was eventually cancelled.
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Fourth Branch
WORK-IN-PROGRESS
Future Prospects
Current version of the Tech Tree is ver much complete but there are some other vehicle which could be included into the tree. There are few ongoing modernisation projects (TİYKs) which I’ve included in the tree without much information. I’ll be updating those vehicles once they are revealed. There is one interesting idea I’m still trying to figure out about Fourth Branch of Premium Section and hopefully reveal it pretty soon once I manage to finalise it.