Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

R-27Rs are equivalent to SuperTEMP at best.
It’s Russian propaganda to say anything higher than that.

There are Su-25s that die in 1 shot too.
All you’re doing is proving no Russian bias.

Also Russians false-flagged my first post in this topic proving that post correct.

If you can legally exchange IRL currency for a vehicle and it doesn’t violate War Thunder’s policies, it counts.

We have a little bit different countiong standarts, but i accept your point

I did not say a single thing about bias, you are the one yapping about it here

Because this one is nerfed. It has to have 4.5 M of speed, but it has 3.5 i think. ER also must have 4.5M, but was buffed to 5.8M for some reason, that i don’t know

Documents about the ER’s motor caused it to be corrected in-game.
And neither R-27R nor SuperTEMP have had their motors changed in the negative direction at this time.

The hypocrisy of this statement when when KH-38 and Panstir exist is just wild.

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Don’t even bother arguing with @AlvisWisla.

Read the conversation I had between him in this thread: The double standard when talking about the Brimstone's capabilities - #80 by ARK_BOI

He will lie, nitpick, move the goalpost, change the subject then proceed to gas light you. Almost all conversations I had with him always results him in doing this or straight up ignoring me.

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I am enjoying arguments with such people for the first few hours, after that i will just stop it. But thank you

I am waiting for dinner at this time, otherwise I’d talk more about the things we agree on in what you’ve stated in your previous posts.

I don’t get why Honda is seemingly upset with me despite us both stating that KH-38 is superior to AGM-65.

Enjoy your dinner

You said that Kh-38 is equivalent of AGM-65. My own feelings are kinda different, i think that Kh-29T is kind of an equivalent though still different

No accusations were made if it’s the truth

All it took was looking at the previous post of you claiming that the Mavericks are similar to the KH38:

We literally had this discussion not too long ago on a different thread, then when I brought the spreadsheet, you claimed that you already read it and it actually supports you claims that they are equivalent. No it’s not, it does the opposite.

Now all of a sudden you’re claiming that the the KH38 is better? Really? Whenever someone brings up how meta changing the KH38, you bring the Mavericks. You’re implying that they’re equivalent. Almost all conversations I had with you always end up you overestimating the effectiveness of the mavericks.

I’m talking about you ignoring me when I bring valid and truthful points. Do you know why I focus on you more than others? You constantly repeat the same lies or half truths even after being corrected on it. I’m more than happy to go over some if you’d like

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If we compare it like this(just on the raw stats, so it’s easier), comparison gets even worse
AGM-65 mostly faces Pantsir-S1/Tor-M1
To make Maverick work well you have to come into killzone of Pantsir
Kh-38 can face ADATS/FlaRakRad/ItO-90
But Kh-38 does not have to go into kill zone of SPAA to destroy them

Which makes me believe that Su-25SM3+Kh-38MT(or ML if you like that) is the best counter-spaa option in the entire game at the moment. With introduction of Su-34 it could change due to flight characteristics of airplanes

In my personal opinion Kh-38 is KH-29TE with improved flight characteristics and game would not lose anything if it was not added (since we had 29TE for what i believe, 2 major updates before 38 was also introduced

More like “vision of goodwill”

I’ve exclusively launched AGM-65s far outside their missile’s effective range, and outside custom battles, all hit their target.
Custom battles less than 10 were intercepted by the person that chose to 1v1 me.

i Really want A-200A with GR-4

Do you mean A-200C?

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yes this one thx bro

I guess we’ll have to wait and see, It would be an intersting choice for Only Britian to get a late Tornado IDS. But at the same time, I suppose Italy got the A200 (10.3/11.3 one) recently and Germany has had the WTD-61 and MFG for a while. This is Britian’s second IDS

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is the best counter-spaa option in the entire game at the moment

The KH38 is great for this, but I feel that ATM, the Spike ER helos are even better due to the opportunity to pop in and out of cover so quickly