The double standard when talking about the Brimstone's capabilities

They have PARS we have Hellfires. FnF beats laser guided everytime

They have 3 MBTs that outclass anything we have to offer in temrs of mobility, firepower and protection. Leopard 2A7V should be 12.7/13.0 if the CR2BN/2E are to be left at 12.0.

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Hah i’m really surprised that you correct about this one
PARS3 is garbage overall only thing that had over other is being FnF
Yep that’s it

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If damage are better then yes
And he talking about South African premium (which tbh it better than AH MK1 itself at lower BR)
But yes Challenger2 are not leopard level not even close

I think if you have to spend £60 to have a “better” heli. Its a mute argument anyway.

I know PARS are a buggy mess, but jsut the ability to pop up above a hill, fire off 1+ PARS and then hide again just trumps having to sit and hover for 1 minute waiting for the Hellfire to hit (not even necessarily kill) and there is only so much evasive maneuvering you can do.

Would not line up with the wreckage, maybe for the export versions but not these ones being fired today.

Reminder as well there is more than 1 Grom-E1 make that exists.

Thinking about this further as well, regardless of the terminal seeker, this is still a missile with 120km range, you can hit targets from airfield to airfield, why is nobody else getting such weapons, there are a myraid of NATO T-LAMs that exist and dont have any terminal homing but only russia gets the benefit of a AGM that has more 20km max range?

Yeah i agree with this but only top heli i had for Brits is AH MK1 I don’t buy South African premium because I don’t feel it necessary (plus i like it starstreak best tool hunting Pantsir)

Yeah. Maybe with the GR4 i’ll start playing more GRB, but between how bad out tanks are and the nerfed state of Brimstones. I’ll probably just stick to ASB like I normally do these days anyway. But If I do start playing more GRB then it would be nice if the Apache was better with FnF AGMs as well. But as that is never going to be added because “balance” i’ll just need to master using the Hellfires and Starstreaks on the Apache

We have Mokopa on Rooivalk, and possible Superhind next update, which is better than both from my analysis and experience in the case of 114 vs Mokopa.
Once you’ve fragged a few enemies through smoke using laser AGMs, it gets both funny and sad.
The only thing PARS3 has going for it is F&F, which SPIKEs do better.

I find Challenger 2s more than playable personally, they’re just not speedy lolpen machines.
Armor would matter more if I didn’t play with the onion layers in mind at all times.

Which you have to buy for £60-£70 I would agree with you if it was a TT aircraft, but being a premium, its irrelevant

Id be fine with them if they didnt have a 4 round ready rack and had maintained their reload advantage which they had for years. So give them their 20 round ready rack maybe buff them to 4/4.5 second reload (especially on the CR3TD) and then fix some of the 40? or so bug reports concerning the CR2s armour. Then maybe it will be more playable.

In the meantime. I’ll either stick at 10.7 with the CR1s or just not play GRB at all.

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Are we still talking about that? IOG is not the same between the hellfire and the KH38 The KH38 has an inertial drift speed of 1.25°/s and the hellfire of 3.5°/s (again would’ve known this if you actually read the spreadsheet) The lower the better.

I have a feeling that you’re not reading what I’m saying. The KH38 is significantly more powerful than Maverick. When I have claimed the opposite? And again, if you read the spreadsheet, the mavericks cannot be used at a longer range than the spaa.

The problem with maverick being called a long range weapon is that it loses significant speed. If the target is completely stationary, the maverick will hit, but as soon as it moves, the chance of hitting it reduces a lot. A byproduct of that issue is the time it takes to hit the target. Long range launches will take significant time. In that time, it can easily be shot down, target gets into cover, or target dies.

What makes the KH38 deadly isn’t the range. It’s the speed and explosive mass. It is a very reliable missile and that can knock out any vehicle. The maverick can pack a punch but it needs a direct hit center of mass and even that, sometimes fall pray to volumetric.

this was a discussion I had with you weeks ago… Which you seemed to not read… Again.

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aand there we go. @AlvisWisla disengages from the conversation when he’s being called out.

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It can, but mostly with the track radar, that goes 75 degree up. Search radar is a gamble, some times it does, sometimes it does not (yes i am aware how it function, im taking about a moment where search radar beam does cross the missile)

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Which wreckage? In the video they just send it to a point, that can be done with any gps guided bomb,

It could, still you will need more evidence, also there is another issue, im pretty sure that this is intended agaisnt strategic targets, enven if it gets active radar it doesnt mean that it can lock small object like tanks, let alone moving ones.

I personally think that this is a gps only weapon, at the end it would be relatively equivalent to the Chinese glide bomb ot the SBD that we saw on the trailer.

Significantly less range. Not to mention it’s much heavier and has even less range than the 65D. ~40km max range (at high alt and on a good day ofc, most of the time it’s ~30km given a 5km alt launch) vs ~20-25km max range is no comparison at all.

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Which doesn’t matter since AGM-65’s range exceeds Pantsir’s range.

The Pantsir-S1 can easily and reliably intercept any AGM-65 without a problem. You could fire a full volley of 6 mavs and any S1 player who knows how to properly intercept multiple at a time will have no issue defeating them (unless it’s a really close range pop up and launch em all kamikaze launch)

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I mean, do you TRULY need any amount of skil to do that. All you need to do is 4 keybind and basic spatial awareness.
Oh, right…

Yet they haven’t intercepted mine outside of custom battle testing, and it was less than 1/4th intercepted.
Then again, my launch is 9000 meters.

They dont look up, or they cant use the 81 degree radar mode. Their problem.

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It’s not them, it’s the platform.
If it was them it would have shown up in testing.

I do not have problems like that with the pantsir.