For example they gave the Type 16 prototype and premium DM23 that Japan never had for balancing because they didn’t want to uptier them with historical Type 93.
But sometimes they even do it entirely at random, like how the Japanese F-15s have AIM-9M that they never had only to serve as another module to research before AAM-3
So if it’s compatible, it’s in the pool of munitions Gaijin choose from when adding a vehicle. Sometimes they stick to historical ones, sometimes they don’t, and there’s no clear way to predict it.
The era on the vt4 thailand uses is worse than Nizh and duplet though not by much, as you said 3bm42 is as mich as the oplot should get, it will never get 3bm46 as its impossiblr.
FY2 is weaker than Nizh, but the VT4 should still have greater maximum protection if the 900/1,100 CE hull/turret values for the T-84 I found were accurate.
Not sure if this has been posted here before, however this diagram was made by a well respected tank nerd (Object 477 from SH) and is based on data from the original trials in Thailand:
It’s not Japan tree, it’s imperial Japan, bc flag
It’s not German tree, it’s ww2 Deutschland, look at the flag
It’s not China tree or is it, it’s the ccp part of China with a Taiwanese subtree which is also China
How convenient
It’s not imperial Japan either, they are using the War Flag. That makes it one of the only two trees in-game that don’t use a national flag at all (next to Germany).
Personally I don’t think the flags are anything to go by, since in many cases a single nation went through multiple flags and even entire governments (Germany is the extreme here with five different "Germany"s in the timeframe). Ideally for each nation should get their modern national flag.
Germany was never part of the USSR, neither was “half of Europe”. USSR countries would be Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.
Probably a bit much considering even if Russia alone remains the only nation in the tree post-USSR it’s still pretty much the techtree with the most stuff to add. But if they do have to pick from them for whatever reason I think it’d be best to go for nations well aligned with modern day Russia as well such as Belarus. Mainly because a large point of adding a nation is to appeal to players from that nation that naturally live in the modern day, not 40 years ago.
Tried to make a point that Germany back then was still Germany and Japan was still Japan
Russia was ussr
Only because its convenient now to say Russia wasn’t ussr doesn’t mean that all the countries that were occupied think of themselves as ussr (as a nation****)
Satellite states and annexed countries =/= nation
A lot of countries had formed along other countries
Mostly unwillingly
Why make ussr exception
If we follow the game logic
Germany and Japan are represented as their ww2 counterparts
Just like Russia is represented as ussr
A good example might be Korea, which was under Imperial Japanese control, but doesn’t mean the Koreas should become part of the Japanese tree, because in the modern day these don’t share a national identity.
A contrast to that is East Germany, which was still Germany and ended up unified, which is why it’s included as Germany in-game.
But also China can work as a different example, where there are two countries in the modern day that both claim the Chinese identity, so both are included in the Chinese tree despite not being the same country.
In this case I think subtrees are different, since they were never meant as “part of the techtree nation”, only another nation that was chosen to share the tree because there is gameplay relevance, a historical connection and no modern day tensions.
I’d say China as a tree having both Chinas makes sense, lile how Germany has five different nations that are still Germany, two of which existed at the same time.
It’s not a subtree, just two different nations that are individually China, thus placed in the China tree. It’s not the PRC tree and not the ROC tree either, it’s the China tree.
The flag is a bit unfortunate since you can only have one per tree, but I think Gaijin just chooses the one used by most vehicles in the tree to stay out of any politics. You could probably do a split flag since both still exist in the modern day maybe, but considering all other nations only use one flag I don’t see a precedent for that.
