T-84 will be great, the VT-4 will be a sad “final spawn” vehicles after all the other 11.7-12.0 vehicles have been used.
i still want it, i find treasure in what people find bad, and also its a great opportunity, if china needs help buffing the VT-4 now they have the japanese users coummunity helping
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TBH, I don’t even think the VT-4 is worth to spawn if the situation is this bad. For most situation the game is almost over after you spawn 2-3 vehicle and if you had to spawn 5-6 vehicle in a short period then I think you better quit and find another match😅
Not to mention its also a service vehicle with Thailand so it has all the right to be added since its used by Thailand and Thailand is paired with Japan as a sub tree in wt meaning any vehicles used by Thailand should be added.
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The VT4 should be better compared to the T-84. They have comparable mobility and protection, but the VT4’s gun should be far better since the T-84 would, realistically, be stuck with 3BM42, but even if Gaijin decides to be ahistorical and give it 3BM46, the VT4’s gun would still be better.
Depends if we are talking IRL or in game, because in game the T-84 would likely have a better armor profile and better reverse speed.
The armor profile is pretty bad on the VT-4 in game.
wouldnt they just use chinese rounds for both?
There hasn’t been any evidence that the BTA4 projectile is compatible with the T-84’s autoloader. Since the T-84 has also been leaked to be 11.7 rather than 12.0, it seems likely that Gaijin only gave it 3BM42 or 3BM46, instead.
The armor would cover more of the T-84 than the VT4, but the VT4 should still have stronger composites+ERA where they are located. The T-84 should have better reverse speed, though.
that unicolor camo looks really similar to USSR but it is what it is. Hopefully it’ll be like Hungary and Finland where they get their main standard camos for free.
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Does it really matter?
The game is full of examples of tanks using APFSDS that they don't have access to.
I am sure BM Oplot will receive DTC10-125
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It does matter in the case of autoloaders. There are limits to what they can use.
The DTC10-125 does not require any modifications to the loading mechanism.
Only 3BM59 and 3BM60 require modernization.
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There is no statement saying BTA4 can be loaded and fired by KBA-3, but…
The Chinese themselves have said that BTA4 is compatible with older 2A46 models (Presumable with the older autoloader too). KBA-3 is precisely that. A 2A46 (some say based of 2A46M). Theoretically it can.
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I remember reading that the DTC10-125 can’t be used as a “drop in” round, it requires integration.
No
DTC10-125 and DTW10-125(VTA4) are 680mm long and do not require any modifications to the loading mechanism.
Idk, still no evidence of it being used in the Oplot.
It doesn’t matter.
I repeat again
Only 3BM59 and 3BM60, which are 735mm long, require modernization of the charging mechanism
The standard loading mechanism can use shells up to 690 mm long.
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I’m sure some here remember the Type 90 debacle when many people asked Gaijin to give it DM43 because of balancing at the time, they basically refused to do it because it didn’t use it in service.
I think it’s a matter of balance.