Yet at the same time China has Vietnamese vehicles even though they have an interesting history and China likes bullying them irl.
So again, every tree has vehicles like that. It’s just that Chinese players really believe in the “rules for thee but not for me” mindset, that they should get special treatment.
The only positive for the chinese playerbase is when this will be implemented is that other players will see its shortcomings
Koreans are no different (atleast some) when it comes to adding them to japan…
Looks like you really have no understanding of history. Do you actually know how the “Vietnamese” T-34 AA in the game came to be? It is a direct product of Chinese aid — a Soviet chassis fitted with Chinese twin 37 mm guns. Without China’s direct involvement, it simply wouldn’t exist.
Yeah, it’s a shame really. Nations like Hungary for example have much more to them than just a free Leopard, Gaijin just don’t use that potential.
I mean if it were Thai people that were against the Thai sub tree for Japan I would have had a different opionion, but these are people that have nothing to do with it. If they didn’t want Chinese vehicles in other trees maybe they should have pressured their government not to export anything.
It’s time for these people to open their eyes that they have massive double standards instead of participating in the mental gymnastics world cup 2025.
Bully? Until now, there are almost a thousand armored vehicles from China in the Vietnamese army. China has given Vietnam countless help in the past (even during China’s most difficult times), and the Vietnam AA of the Chinese TT also relied on China’s assistance to exist.
If the “standard” for Middle Eastern vehicles and Ukrainian vehicles still exists, then the opinion of Chinese players is not a “double standard”.
The difference is there is no such standard. Gaijin chooses not to engage with these, but don’t openly refuse it. They avoid the issue altogether in a way that cannot be proven to be a political move, since simply not adding them is not necessarily political. Denying them would be however.
For the Thai VT-4, the equivalent is not to deny the VT-4, but to add another tank in its place without directly denying it. It wouldn’t need to be added, but the denial would make it political and unfair towards Thai players.
This comparison should be China and Japan. Comparing Thailand and Japan together is distorting the question. Do you think the Middle Easterners will agree to the addition of foreign-made Middle Eastern weapons to Israel?
Why should it be China and Japan. Your government approved exports of the VT-4 to Thailand. As soon as they got handed over Chinese WT players lost any right to complain over where they get placed.
Same that when as soon as the US handed over the M1A2T to Taiwan, US WT players lost any right to complain where it would be placed.
And again, something something comparing current or recent conflict to something from 80 years ago.
You and I both know that the official has some concerns on this issue, and the source of this concern is obviously reality. At the same time, I don’t think it’s “unfair” to lose a tank, VT4 doesn’t have to join China, I’ve never said that. I mean VT4 don’t join Japan. Even from a purely gaming point of view, the T-84 is clearly better suited to the role of a “tank” than the VT4.
Why lost right to complain? Its fair to complain and stay mad when they add this… I would like to see in the subtree…
The gaming pov is not rlly solid, bc why should you only play/add the better tanks?
Yes, but I am saying that a denial is unprecedented when the usual rule is avoidance of such issues. If Gaijin want to avoid it, they don’t add VT-4, but they don’t officially say it.
I don’t think it’s unfair not to add it in general, so long as it is ambiguous why that is done. Saying Thai players can’t get their tank because others don’t want them to is unfair, while it just not being added is nothing new and already happens to many vehicles regardless.
This is why I personally expected Thai ground vehicles to come with Indonesia, where the Indonesian Leopard 2A4 fills the same role as the Thai VT-4, which lets Gaijin not add it without causing people to question why.
Then in the future they might rework subtrees in a way that a Thai VT-4 can be added without issue, or if they don’t it simply is one of many vehicles “not yet in game”.
They can complain, it just shouldn’t be taken seriously. The M1A2T is a tank operated by the ROCA, so it can be added to the Chinese tree without any issue.
Well, if this question was less complex and sensitive, I would say you were right. I certainly understand that people in a country want to play with their vehicles. But now. This problem is not so simple to solve, at least, there is no shortage of VT4 characters in terms of gameplay. If the official insists on doing this, it shouldn’t be at this time.
As serious as my idea to give the iranian f14a due to its near to israel…
Guys stop talking about politics!
You can talk about the VT4 and T84 as this is what the topic is about, but do not bring any politics into it as these comments will be removed!
I retract what I said. It is certainly unfair to prevent people from a country from wanting to get their tanks. It’s just that there are more people to say about this issue.What I mean is that What I want to express is that “the absence of a VT4 in the current time period is not critical”