Topic about Japan adds T-84 and VT-4

[MAUSWAFFE]

I honestly understand both sides of the argument. Personally I want to see full Thai armed forces, but I also see how with subtrees now that would technically place it “under” Japan by the name and flag of the tree it’s in.

So as far as that goes I understand that it’s problematic to add now, and as much as I’d like to see it understand if it isn’t.

But I also see a future rework for subtrees, where subtree vehicles would not be placed under another nation at all, but represented by their own countries flag and name alongside each other. I made a suggestion about this rework, and I believe this could resolve the issue if it is ever implemented.

Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

poll Subtree Rework - Nation Folders [Nation Folders] Subtrees are a good way to help existing nations in their efficiency and vehicle variety, while introducing new and exciting nations to the game. They have been a part of War Thunder since the release of update “Ixwa Strike” in March 2021. Yet, they also come with with a lot of criticism. From gameplay debates criticizing the addition of other nations vehicles “getting in the way” of researching the main nations vehicles, to more politic…

[来如雷霆收震怒_罢如江海凝清光]

If you can achieve this plan, maybe the situation will ease a little.

[MAUSWAFFE]

@来如雷霆收震怒 罢如江海凝清光

It is certainly unfair to prevent people from a country from wanting to get their tanks. It’s just that there are more people to say about this issue.What I mean is that What I want to express is that “the absence of a VT4 in the current time period is not critical”

This part I can agree with. If it hadn’t been in the leak nobody would’ve made a big issue over it not being here immediately. With four Thai tanks being added, there is still many others that aren’t, the VT-4 is not alone.

I still believe there is solutions to the problem, and it can be added eventually if things change, but right now it’s not the end of the world to not see it.

[Miraz05]

@Youka_Saryn

I wonder what rounds does the VT-4 of Thailand get?
I know VT-4 is not coming this update but am still curious.

DTW-125 apparently

[Zyszhao]

Just 2 China regime refer to 2 period of time, in one tree named only China.
I wonder if they say Federal Republic of Germany, East Germany, German Reich and Weimar Republic is subtree of WW2 Germany?

[Zyszhao]

@_Renzo

Yet at the same time China has Vietnamese vehicles

That’s a mistake made by devs.
It’s in-game code is Type 65 SPAA, and many documents listed it as a Chinese vehicles at that time.

[Imaflyingturkey]

gaijin has confirmed that atleast for this next update that the VT4 wont be coming to the game

[WreckingAres283]

BTA4 iirc

[katyushá]

@可靠的同志kv-2

In fact, many Chinese players are not annoyed by the Japanese tech tree getting the VT4. What annoys them is that a defeated country is given the vehicles of a victorious country around September 3rd

Well they aren’t so they can only be annoyed at themselves i guess? Again with the dates. No date has been given for this update or anything to do with the vt-4.

The argument you’re making it purely made up drama which i kindly ask you to stop spreading.

[CaptKaMeLRo]

กองพันทหารม้าที่๒๑ กองทัพบกไทยรับมอบรถถังหลัก VT4 เพิ่มเติม ๕คัน

[141_allen]

ROC still exists, Taiwan still refers themselves and their military as ROC and ROCA/ROCN/ROCAF.

[_Renzo]

ROC is officially part of the Chinese tree and Thailand is officially part of the Japanese tech tree, doesn’t matter if they are main nations or sub nations, so again if the M1A2T is fair game for the Chinese tree the thai VT-4 is fair game for Japanese tree.

[katyushá]

@可靠的同志kv-2

If the official side really wants to refute the rumors, I suggest they go to Chinese forums such as Tieba, rather than doing it here. Because doing it here is completely useless for eliminating prejudices and grudges

I have no doubt images of statements about the VT-4 not coming has made it over to that community.

Making statements here is not ‘useless’ as it’s the official forum. If no one wants to take that into account and still make claims about dates or vehicles coming then that’s on them.

But i’ll quote myself. Again.

No date has been given for this update or anything to do with the VT-4

So let’s move on and stop talking about it.

[nature_2003]

i agree

[可靠的同志kv-2]

I come from Chinese forums, and in fact, most Chinese players do not believe that statement…

[TheKnightOfZero]

You have been asked multiple times now to move on and stop derailing the topic !

[可靠的同志kv-2]

So why do you not tolerate different opinions? Isn’t the point of a forum to have discussions?

[TheKnightOfZero]

What are you on about you have came in here with the sole purpose to derailing the topic and then accuse us of not caring because we say to follow the rules you agreed to when you made an account!

[可靠的同志kv-2]

However, on China’s internet, it is common to think that “the official don’t care”. What I just want to make clear is that this incident is probably not just about the VT4.

[可靠的同志kv-2]

The current situation is that this matter has already been blown out of proportion on Chinese internet and is spreading widely. If the officials still take no action, things will likely get worse.