They do though, it doesn’t take a genius to realize this. I mean, a big part of this post is about Russian flight model nerfs not being undone, even though the R-27ER meta is over
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T80B is literally a good example of it. Getting something they didn’t have to make it more competitive. R73/27ER missiles are still strong but the new stuff they getting are simply not enough. Not to mention their FM.
I’d rather not mention Ground vehicles in the post, I want to keep the topic about top tier air and how it relates to Russian fighter balance, etc.
I just want to use an example , there are probably more out there but I can’t be bothered to find but yeah , this problem will not be solved anytime soon even if they are one of the worst jet in the game. Considering how a large part of the community are being extremely helpful about the thing that need balancing
I hope the issues are fixed eventually, because the December update has a chance to make it even worse.
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Well nothing much we can do, hopium
It’s up to Gaijin ultimately
Lots of lesser individuals still trying to argue USA “needs to be better cause it is the way it is IRL!” forgetting this is a video game and that we have battle ratings for a reason.
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Nobody cares or is asking you about in real life. The topic is about game balance in the VIDEO GAME that is WAR THUNDER.
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Exactly
SU-30SM (Not SM2) would be a good fit IMO. Yes it’s quite modern, it got a PESA radar that is a bit worse than the Su34’s own IIRC, with thrust vectoring.
For the missiles, we are already using birds that brings missiles much older than they are, so it’s not a problem if we keep it around the Aim120A power. I honestly think just giving a more decent flight model and fixed R-77 drag value would do a ton to help current russia. Alternatively, introduce the R-77-1 to give them more range thanks to the sustainer.
On the other hand, I admit I don’t trust Gaijin to model thrust vectoring aircraft decently. They’re already struggling with sweep wings models…
They could also just give us a better Su-27 than the 27SM I guess.
Currently, playing Russia is basically playing worse France. You are forced to play close range due to gimped missiles while using gimped flight models that falls out of the sky at the first turn. Mirage 2K5F has better short range missiles, way better flight performance, better radar, better RWR, MAWS, and since they fixed the SPIRALE pod, more countermeasures than soviets planes. Mirage only shortcoming is less missiles and less radar gimbal (standard NATO 120° vs 170° of 29SMT).
And the Mirage is also inaccurate btw. Magic 2 can still get another buff, and MICA should have better range, on top of deserving some fix in term of thrust vectoring issues (also applies to the R73)
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I’m so glad someone pointed it out, France just does what Russia does at top tier air but way better. Russian fighters deserve a buff.
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@MightyBaozi please, this guy and that one sartt guy keep going off topic can you do somthing
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Yes, a triangle has a drastically better Oswald coefficient than Gaijin’s “Su-27”.
It also baffles me the Delta Wing somehow has better energy retention than the Su-27 and Mig-29
The topic has been cleared once again… Please everyone do not go off-topic.
Quick reminder that sentences such as “Just block him” are both going to spin the thread off its rails and create provocative messages which will lead to a vicious cycle. If you feel the need to block a certain user just do so and call it a day.
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I am not familiar with the new forum, how do I block a user?
go on their profile and where it says “normal” press that, there will be a thing where you can press “ignore” and it stops you seeing any of their posts
Back to subject… they need buffs. Revert MiG-29 FM nerfs (ie revert it back to release date FM) and buff Su27 drag so that it isn’t useless.
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This is needed so badly