Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

Its 1.3deg but I believe it has better rangeband values than the R-73/Magics so its not actually half of the flare resistance.

Nobody is kinetically dodging these missiles. What matters is how much time that the opponent has to notch or dive to multipath height. For that you want speed, and it’s why the R-77 is the worst fox3.

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Maneuverability matters at close range though. Overall range is still better than maneuverability.

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Indeed

50g and a gigantic drag coefficient, which makes the missile practically unfeasible if you fire it more than 10km from the enemy, the aim120 has 35 G and works very well at long, medium and short distances, while the r77 only works well at short distances, but you still have to deal with the terrible Soviet radars.
As for IR missiles, only the r73 is really competitive, the r27ET1 has a gigantic fov and is extremely vulnerable to countermeasures

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Earth is healing.

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Very well said.

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I agree with your point of view, I just want to express that Russian vehicle has always had some advantages, but some people believe that Russian vehicle should have all the advantages

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this april fools they should add it in it’s own event like the past april fools ones but with the fantasy superdogfighter fm USCENTCOMM was sweating about before they got their hands on one

j8f is from 2009…it’s unstoppable clearly…

They did, but he’s not wrong about the fact that the SU-27’s and Mig-29’s have gimped flight performance.

Flankers are missing a large ammount of energy retention due to how the leading edge slats function in game, and while the Mig-29 is technically a accurate flight model, it is being held to a higher standard of “realism” that they have yet to apply to pretty much every jet.

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and it still has arguably one of the best flight models in the game LOL

not all, just be equivalent… USA is always the strongest side of asymmetry

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USA has been enjoying ez-mode since the introduction of the F-14. The only thing that even challenged their dominance was the introduction of the R-27ER which was unquestionably the best fox-1 missile. However even then the russian “advantage” in BVR was counterbalanced by:

  • USA having superior radars for guiding Fox-1 missiles
  • All russian aircraft prior to the flanker only being able to carry a meager two SARH missiles while USA planes could carry a much larger supply that permitted them to spend missiles on longer ranged attacks meant to pressure the opponent into a weaker position rather than kill them outright. The larger supply simply meant that you could afford to take risks with longer shots that weren’t guaranteed kills and you weren’t hurt so badly to see a single attack waste 50% of your Fox-1 supply because the opponent managed to defeat the missile or was shot down by a teammate first.
  • SARHs were not the meta weapon because strong multipathing made it trivial to faceroll your way into the merge. This caused the meta to be close range fox-2 furballs. As for who had the better Fox2 between Russia and USA, the americans unquestionably had the far superior missile during the game’s R60M vs AIM-9L era while the topic becomes open to debate for the R-73 vs AIM-9M era but I maintain that the R-73 is better in a 1v1 duel and the 9M better at sucker punching people amidst a 16v16 furball.
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Its dumb that the Mig-29 has to be pinpoint accurate while everything else at top tier for the most part gets these fictional flight models

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You forgot to mention Su-34.It is literally a flying boat.

And yet every moron like MatAWG is making a big deal out of it being able to pull a lot, even though it bleeds speed like crazy

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Gaijin not modeling ARHs well (in the case of the MICA it’s probably for balance but for the R-77 it’s incompetence) is something they should fix, I’m surprised they haven’t already, but it’s not really an example of bias towards the US.

The 9M might be second best, but it is much worse than the R-73; 7M is massively worse than the R-27ER; the AIM-54 can’t turn (and the C isn’t modeled correctly); and all ARHs are modeled incorrectly.

They model missiles as consistently as they model flight performance, terribly

no…

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