Russian tanks also have shield around the autoloader, you point? And yes SPAA is not relevant to the topic of fighters
Hope you are aware the MiG-29 SMT is introduced in 2005 and the F16C is from 1984. Gaijin does everything that is in their power to keep the Russians competitive at top tier. Russia usually gets the most modern and newest stuff of all nations.
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Yeah, Warthunder should balance with BR, not capability. And if that means the F16 and F15 have to be like 14.0 or 15.0 that’s fine. Most horrible thing is when you buy something premium and Gaijin removes historical weapons or performance after you already spend on it.
the F-15C and 16C in game are mid 2000s upgrades as well, otherwise they wouldn’t have HMD/HMCS
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Good point, forgot that. But only partly true, it is not mid 2000s. The C was from '84, but the F16C block 50 rolled out of the factory this week 33 years ago on the 31st of October 1991 (F-16.net - The ultimate F-16, F-35 and F-22 reference). That is still 14 years before the MiG-29 SMP.
On the F15C, I know less about it. But the F15 is older then the F16. The first aircraft that got the MSIP II upgrade (what Gaijin calls the F15C) was the 84-001 in 1985. They sure did update the helmet, I’m not sure Gaijin gave us the proper F15C radar. Not sure what radar it got in game, but most likely the AN/APG-63(V)1 which is from the '90s. But as said, don’t really know about them in game.
Yeah they should’ve added the MiG-29M (1980s) instead, but you’d seethe harder
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Our F-16C is from 2006…
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The JHMCS program only started in the 2000s and first integrated on F/A-18s in 2003. As it stands the F-16C in game is a 2000s upgrade, only Israeli F-15/16s had HMDs implemented earlier sometime in the '90s.
My dear… don’t be a dumbass, look the tag of the post…
“Air” “air rb”
The entire topic discussed here is around the flight model and radar performance… what do spaa and tank have to do with the subject of the publication?
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What’s super about it? The ability to go a little faster then the F4, or its inability to combat most jets?
Why are you mentioning Grb on an Arb post? It has nothing to do with it.
It’s almost like I mentioned the F-4F ICE as something worse than Russian fighter jets because it’s a shitter.
those were just additions for other forms of some major components of the game that showcase how much russians are buffed and other are not :)
And now back to the topic :)
Right the topic where we address how top tier russian fighters have been handicapped more than necessary and require buffs to be both more historically accurate as well as more competitive for their BR. That topic.
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Maybe read two posts down so that you can learn about the joke.
Skill issue su27 have at most missile. R77 have 50G overload aim120 only 32G.and best IR (R73 R27ET)
I don’t know what you re complaining about?
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Thanks! Why did Gaijin cause all this confusion calling it the MSIP II instead of mid life JHMCS upgrade or something like that?
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Missile count doesn’t matter when you have the worst Fox 3’s and bad radars. The R-73 and R-27ET are also not the best IR missiles, no idea where you heard that.
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G load isn’t everything. The R-77 is a lot worse than the top missiles in ARB.
The R-27ET is in fact the best IR missile because of its range. Then the rest is personal preference.
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