I’m a bit Regarded I meant nerf
Ah, the MiG-29 was actually buffed in February. It was ultimately nerfed in October, 10 months after release.
personal preference imo, all russian radars still had 10km HMD. I agree that with the R-73 it was very, very good however combat shifted ever further from fox 2 knife fighting unless you are very keen on sneaking through valleys and even then its a hit or miss
Yeah but it’s still had shiti model even before the nerve I remember my friend grind it out F-16A and that thing would just murdered the mig 29 in the dogfight no matter what you do
General point being: before the latest updates the soviets had better missiles, bluefor had better avionics and airframes (roughly equal before the nerfs).
Now bluefor has better avionics, airframes and better missiles than redfor with a special mention to the 20km HMD given to redfor last patch. Now all of the advantages are on bluefor whereas before you had at least some tradeoffs
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I actually liked using the HMD with the R-27ER meaning the MiG-29 always had the first shot.
The MiG-29’s FM was superior to the F-16 up until October where Gaijin removed the AoA limiter of the F-16 and nerfed the MiG-29’s FM.
That’s not to say you couldn’t win dogfights in the F-16, but it was pretty easy to win in a MiG-29 by just staying fast or forcing very slow fights. The MiG-29 also had much better thrust so you could disengage quite easily.
I don’t know man I did play with one of my friends just to test the aircraft out and we did switch accounts and in both instances the F 16 just malested the mig 29 but what I’m trying to say is that Mick 29 from the start never had correct flight model
Could be because you used the F-16A. Which is lighter than the F-16 block 15s.
Yeah I did use the Alpha
That’s probably why. The F-16 block 10 is the better dogfighter than the MiG-29 back then but it also had no SAHRs.
But I’m pretty sure that flight performance difference between those two aircraft is not noticeable
The F-16 block 10 rates about 1deg/s faster or about 5-6% better so its small but noticeable.
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ok
Nice revisionism, but people were forced to the deck by the phoenix and sparrow long before the ER was added to the game. The reign of the 27ER was a small blip on the timeline of american absolute dominance. Need I remind you that the AIM-9L absolutely wiped the floor with the R-60M and that the power gap didn’t close until the 9M and the R-73 came onto the field, and even then the 9M was the king breadwinner.
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mig25 also has r60
Easy to dodge if can’t that on them
What am supposed to do that R60M are suck even irl but yes it is still 9L counterpart
and what your suggestion?
9L vs R73?
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All Mig29/SU27 variants have 20km.
Honestly the Aim-9M and R-73 are way closer to each other than the R-60M and Aim-9L. The difference in effectiveness is unnoticeable.
The power gap is MUCH closer than AIM-9L and R-60M where the 9L was the clear uncontested winner.
In air RB, the matchmup is more of an apples to oranges comparison since the R-73 is better in a 1v1 dogfight situation where both players are watching the other like a hawk. But it’s nearly useless outside of ~1.5km. In contrast the 9M excels at just farming easy kills since its IRCCM works from long range so you can just yeet them at people who have too much on their plate amidst the rest of the chaotic 16v16 mess. They’re dead if they don’t notice the 9M and explicitly take anti-9M measures, where an R-73 or magic-2 will likely be accidentally flared by countermeasures or missiles used in response to third party stimulus.
In air RB and simulator battles the 9M is the clear winner though because good luck knowing precisely when to take anti-9M measures when the 9M is smokeless.
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From my own experience. The 9M is better at medium ranges but its not like the R-73 is far behind to call it “nearly useless outside of 1.5km”.
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