Top-Tier Jet Balance: AIM-120, PL-12, and the Current Meta

With which jet? With 40%, most would be essentially blind to distant radar sources pointing straight at you.

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Typhoon.

Not been an issue, it seems to filter out most of the random noise so I just get what is actually look at me. I was finding 100% just way too chaotic and 70-90% didnt seem to make any difference. Probably should have a play at more like 60-70% though

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Decreasing it a little for ARB isn’t a bad idea.

I couldn’t deal with decreasing my F-18/F-15’s RWR in GRB. Missing a single RWR hit of a top tier AA is rough.

B and C-5 do not have the same seeker. the earlier c models changed the seeker. it should have a much smaller fov, smaller than mica does in game. the report was even accepted, but it was never acted upon. The hobs capability is widely sourced and it cant pull for anything. Almost like gaijin is just leaving certain nations behind intentionally.

This report?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QhYDPYj3LIRl

Which was submitted for the Aim-120B?

No, hold on and i’ll find it.

Welp, i’ve looked for 20 minutes and i cant find the other report. Its like that one except the attached image was different, there were 3 of them, and the title was aim120c-5.

The eurofighters have very sensitive RWR and most annoying of all, the RWR scope has a stupid long range that makes judging the distance of nearby missiles and targets impossible when under 10km or so. The F-2 has the same issue too I think

Yep, which is why I’ve found dropping the sensitivity useful

To how much?

They didn’t randomly decide… it was bug reported long ago

The cause of this problem,I believe, is that the in-game beam maneuver combined with chaff deployment is excessively effective against Fox 3 missiles, far beyond realistic performance. This allows players to be nearly invulnerable without needing to execute the OODA loop — they can simply attack while maintaining or approaching a beam position against the incoming missile. Additionally, the overly small size of the air combat maps is another key reason for this issue.This leads to a situation where most effective Fox 3 kills in actual gameplay occur within 25 km, and high off-axis launches have become commonplace—and we all know which missiles perform better under these conditions. To resolve this dilemma, there are two possible approaches: either enlarge the air combat maps and reduce the effectiveness of the beam maneuver combined with chaff against Fox 3 missile seekers, or directly give the U.S. and Chinese tech trees the upgraded, rocket‑motor‑enhanced AIM‑120C‑7 and PL‑12A.

I’ve got 40% at the moment, but might be a tad too low, so I think im gunna go back up to 60% for a bit

As were other seekers. Thats the issue.

They made mica a lot stronger but just ignored other reports. Should have been multiple together at once or none at all

Do we know specific numbers about the other seekers?

There is a year+ old report accepted for aim120B at the very least

I’m sure there are other reports for some of the others.

But either keep them all the same or implement reports for them all equally. There cant be an inbetween

Can’t see the other source and besides the report for the MICA this is the only one I’m aware of

Tbh i never understood how the RWR sensitivity works amd what it tunes out.
Is it ALL signals?
Or only scan passes and not tracks?

Yeah, nor do I. I really wish it was more clear

from what iv seen it affects both how close a missile needs to be to set of rwr and how close to the center of the seeker cone you need to be to set off your rwr so its set of less for missiles going for your teammate, so id recommend just keeping it at 100 since when i had it lower i would get a warning way too late sometimes